Alternative to replacing anchors

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Author Message   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:21 pm:    So i got a bridge for the PF and soon find out that the studs are a smaller size thread than the anchors. It looks like the anchors were swapped by the genius who had the guitar before me. I never swapped out bridge/tailpiece anchors before so i didnt want to mess it up. So i turned some brass rod on the lathe to make new studs that will fit. This way i dont have to change the anchors or alter the bridge. Tell me what you think. studs anchor studsin bridge Matt   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:24 pm:    Oops. I will try that again.   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:32 pm:    Third times the charm.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:23 pm:    If it's mounted, nobody will notice. Meanwhile you can keep looking out for original parts. But you can play, that's what matters! BTW: The correct Ibanez names for the parts involved are: anchors = studs anchor bases = bushings If you do a search on ICW for "anchor AND base" you'll find threads with the part numbers. Ginger   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:28 pm:    Thanks again Ginger, Is it a difficult procedure for removing and replacing the anchor bases? Matt   Goat Username: Goat Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:51 pm:    Nice job, that's what I call being innovative!   Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:12 am:    I like your solution but replacing the bushing is not that hard. Screw the old stud in the old bushing, yank out the stud complete with bushing and push the new bushing in the hole in the wood. All carefully and gentle ofcourse... P@ul.   Phatphred Username: Phatphred Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:32 am:    Amazing work! I can't add anything to what has been said so far, except to say that I am in awe of the standard of the work and the imaginative approach. I only wanted to say that, whenever anyone buys an older guitar having an anchored down bridge or tailpiece assembley, the first thing they should do is to remove the actual bridge and tailpiece and make sure everything is tightened up at the deepest level. Normally, the same wrench that works for the truss rod will come in useful for part of this job. The same goes for bolt-on necks. Almost invariably, vibration and alternating expansions and contractions of the wood will have loosened the assembly. The tone, response and sustain of the guitar can be improved dramatically. Remember that wood under compression transmits sound completely differently, which is why bolt-on necks produce such remarkable sustain for what may seem to be just a cost-cutting manufacturing solution.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:33 am:    Removing anchor bases difficult? Depends on how stuck they are! But since you have a lathe, you could make a tool to remove them. Thread on one end and a grip on the other. As you can see, there is a risk of damaging the finish, if you try it with knives etc. So make a special tool on the lathe! You could also use a real big nut with a small (fitting) hole on your self made anchors as a grip. And pull straight! Ginger   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:45 am:    Thanks Guys, Yes eventually i would like to put the original bushings back in. Buy at the time i don't have them and i did not know what was involved with changing them. Seems to me you don't want to be chaging these often because the whole procedure will sooner or later wear out the hole and perhaps compromise tone. When replacing these is an adhesive used or is it ust the tight fit that keeps the bushing in place? Matt   Yogi Username: Yogi Registered: 4-2003 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 8:25 am:    Mattfrox, great work on those anchors! Maybe you should make some more and sell them on Ebay, I guess there is a demand for those parts. If the anchor bases in your guitar are M8, they are most probably the original ones! I assume that you got the Gibraltar bridge and the anchors from the Ebay seller '4goodvibrationz'. Although the parts this guy sells are NOS, they are not vintage but reproductions made for the Reissues in the '90s. Those anchors have a M5 thread on both sides and will only fit in the '90s Sustain Blocks. The anchors to be used with a vintage Sustain Block had a M6 thread. About removing the anchor bases: Stewmac offers this very safe and easy to use tool, not cheap though: Stewmac Knob and Bushing Puller Juergen   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:09 am:    Juergen, Yes the anchor bases that are currently in there are M8 1.25. Both the tailpiece anchor bases and the bridge anchor bases are M8. I bought this bridge from Rick (Bondscoll) here on ICW. He had the anchors and nuts but not the anchor bases. Are there NOS anchors that have the M8 thread but the M5 top portion to bolt down the bridge? Matt   Yogi Username: Yogi Registered: 4-2003 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:39 pm:    Matt, I'd recommend you to contact '4goodvibrationz'. According to the item description of the Gibraltar bridge he has currently listed he's aware that the anchors he's offering won't fit into vintage anchor bases and Sustain Blocks. He states that he has different anchors available, maybe he has the vintage ones as well... Juergen   Mattfrox Username: Mattfrox Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 10:43 pm:    Juergen, Holy snickees! I checked 4goodvibrations...look he has some listed..i am glad i had a lathe handy. Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Ibanez-Gibraltar-I-Tailpiece-St uds-Parts-Vintage_W0QQitemZ330093539046QQihZ014QQc ategoryZ7266QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem   Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 11:01 pm:    Nice job, Matt. I'm in need of a tailpiece stud. Mine got damaged by a previous owner of my AR305 who sheared half of the slot off the end. I presume when the slot sheared, the screwdriver slipped and gouged the finish on the top leaving an ugly scar. I had that reapired and a large chip in the upper bout that went down to the bare timber. Only I know where the repairs were made, you'd be really hard pressed to spot them now.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 2:55 am:    Yeah, these prices are MADNESS! I'm glad I bought one NOS Gibraltar bridge + tailpiece set years ago when we still had our guilders. Back then they went for 25 guilders each, which is about €11.50 and that's for a whole bridge or tailpiece assembly (incl. could)! Some of us paid these high prices and since it is the buyer who determines the value... (by creating a hype) the sellers start gold digging. Ginger

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