Set Neck - LP Is this for real?

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Author Message   Cleversj Username: Cleversj Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 4:16 pm:    Ebay Item #(160126256202) Being in remorse over my loss of the Destroyer om eBay (loss at $2775), I elected to buy this one. Guys, what do you think, did I pay too much. What about the original knobs and pic guard? Heck is this really a genuine Ibanez?   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 4:53 pm:    The link goes to a page that says the auction has been removed. Did you win it offline?   Fingersmcoy Username: Fingersmcoy Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 5:43 pm:    E-bays pulling auctions like mad,its seems !   Cleversj Username: Cleversj Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 12:28 am:    No, I won it online and paid for it at the end of the auction. It is a setneck LP standard? Looked kinda clean but had mirror picguard on it. Also the knobs looked different. I do not understand why eBay pulled the auction. I was on it to the last second as I have watched this guitar in an eBay staore for a while. He originally wanted 1195 for it and I thought that he was high. I paid 575 for it plus 65 shipping. I will send pics when I get it. That might be several weeks from now as I am travelling.   Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 2:10 am:    Try this link. Ebay Item #160126256202)   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 3:53 am:    Cleversj, don't worry! This IS the real thing! Just those mirror parts seem to be aftermarket, but they are beautiful on a black one. It won't be too difficult to get cream white parts, IF you want to change it. There is not ONE standard for Ibanez LP models. There are bolt-on necks and set necks. A set neck model with block inlays that is often mentioned, is the 2386 as you can see on the 1977 catalogue pages, but yours has trapezoids. In the catalogue we should look for the words "eingeleimter Hals" (glued-in neck) and trapezoid MOP inlays as the Gibson Les Paul Standard has (block inlays are for the Les Paul Custom, which in the case of a real Gibson has an EBONY fretboard and I don't know if Ibanez has ever used ebony on an LP replica). http://www.t3-kundenserver.de/htmlpages/redasys/_c ore/databases/t_meinl-uploads/1977_artist_custom_8 -seiter.pdf But when we look one year back in 1976, we find the correct model number: 2651 Jet Black. http://www.t3-kundenserver.de/htmlpages/redasys/_c ore/databases/t_meinl-uploads/1976_electric_guitar s.pdf Of course set neck LP models are the closest to the American original. You won't get the same sustain with a bolt-on neck. But they are not the same, because their necks are hard laminated maple instead of mahogany. When we look just at the neck, the sustain should theoretically be better, because maple has a higher density than mahogany. (This was the reason Ted McCarthy and Lester Polfuss added a maple top to a mahogany guitar: an all maple guitar was too heavy to handle!) Ginger   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 6:38 am:    Ginger Are you sure this was the reason? I always heard that the combination of a mahogany body and maple top was done because of sound-characteristic purposes. An all-mahogany body would result in a too "dark" and mellow tone. To compensate that and to add more brightness in the overall sound the maple top was added. If the problem had to do with weight, wouldn't it have been the most logical thought for a man to just make the body thinner? Harry   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 12:06 pm:    Yes, I'm pretty sure, I read it in an interview with Lester Polfuss. Lester's original idea was to make an all maple guitar for as much sustain as possible, but because of the high density of the maple it would have become too heavy. So the mahogany they came up with was actually second choice from a sustain point of view. And THEN they had to compensate what they lost in the compromise. Do you have the Gibson Special of GITARRE UND BASS? I believe it was in that magazine. If you don't have it, I can scan it on my fast new second hand Epson and mail it to you. I'll look into it after dinner. Ginger   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 2:51 pm:    Alright....please mail me the article. You made me curious. Guess that the typical Les Paul sound was a welcome result of the match of both woods and that this eventualy evolved to one of the most typical features of the Les Paul. Harry   Cleversj Username: Cleversj Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 4:17 am:    Still haven't got home to see the darn thing yet.

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