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Zaagje
Username: Zaagje

Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 5:05 am:   

I have the opportunity to buy an ibanez ar2618 (1978) for 500 euro's (681 dollars) or an ibanez ar300(1982) for 800 euro's (1088 dollar's). Both guitars are completely original. I would really like your opinions on them. If I buy the 2618, I would like to install coil taps for the pickups.. is this recommended/easy?

Please post your comments
Zaagje
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 8:54 am:   

Zaagje:

Have you tried playing each of these guitars? The reason I ask is that although similar, they are different sized guitars and each has a distinctive feel and balance. One of these may feel just right for you and make your buying decision easier.

If you go for the 2618, you'll find that most "vintage" fans will advise you not to make any irreversible modifications to the guitar. However, it's your instrument and can do whatever you want. For a simple coil tap solution, you could put in push/pull pots (save all the original parts!) and not have to cut into the top to add extra switches. How easy is this? I don't know. Do you want to do the work yourself?
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 9:14 am:   

It's personal preference, I suppose, but *I'd* grab the 2618, Zaagje, depending on the condition. But I wouldn't modify it.

Please take this with many grains of salt since I'm an acoustic guy and not an electric expert, but my feeling is that if you want a "player" here (rather than a long-term collectible), it might be better to look around for a more recent-vintage guitar rather than to modify the pickups on either of these. Not that folks don't gig old axes, but the rule of thumb is that a collectible's value is best when it's left stock.

There are some great, used Ibanez electrics out there in recent years. JEMs and RGs, for example, and even modern Artists.

Best wishes.
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 9:15 am:   

(Hah, I just saw John's post after typing up mine... Yeah, expect a lot of what John just said, Zaagje! :-) )
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 10:00 am:   

I've seen that 2618 one too...
Jongsma's pictures are as small as STAMPS. I'd ask for better ones.
BTW, one pickup is a DUNCAN and there is already a phase switch.
So it IS already a PLAYER, so the ideal candidate for your mods. But CHECK the guitar in person. I think it's not normal that when you click for bigger pictures, you get the same STAMPS. I have NO opinion on the quality of that axe at the moment. It's simply impossible...


Ginger
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Zaagje
Username: Zaagje

Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 11:07 am:   

It is not the one from jongsma it is the one which is in hoek van holland search marktplaats.nl on ibanez 2618.
I have already played the ar300, which was very very good, i am definitly looking for a player rather than a collector. Can someone tell me if there is a difference between the pickups super 80's and super 58's. I am gonna try the 2618 monday.
Thanx for all your responses.

Zaagje
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:21 pm:   

Hmm, I saw you bid 450 on Jongsma's.
Super 58 and Super 80:
Yes, there's a difference in sound and appearance.
58's are more jazzy with one row of polepieces visible, 80's have a higher output and closed covers with engraved flying fingers (with butterfly wings).

500 for an original one is good...
But it would be a waste to modify that one. So if you must modify, please waste a player instead of a collectors guitar.


Ginger
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Tef
Username: Tef

Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 5:54 am:   

I have already send better pics of my 2618 to several people. If your interested, Zaagje, I can send them to you too.
My 2618 is in good condition (I mean I'm not trying to hide anything in these small pics, something went wrong copying the original pics when I renewed my ad on marktplaats....) So let me know!
Btw the bridge pup indeed has been changed and I think the phase switch was inserted at that time, although I believe there are also 2618 guitars that have the switch from stock...?
You can come by in Amsterdam (walking distance from Dam square) if you want to see it (play it). 500 euro was actually a starting position to bid from.... I was hoping to get some more for it since I paid 650euro four years ago when I bought it....
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 8:24 am:   

Hi Tef,

The reason you get so few reactions is obvious. It's your presentation. I think that better pics provide a better chance to get your money back.
At this moment, the one in Hoek van Holland is ruining it for you. I've seen Artists for 750 and 800 on Marktplaats. I guess the guy in the Hoek needs money fast. If you have the time, make a better presentation, and who knows...


Ginger
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 9:24 am:   

The 500€ 2618 is for sale for about half a year now. Just not as popular guitars in Holland as you might think.
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Tef
Username: Tef

Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 11:28 am:   

Hey Ginger,
Thanks for your comments. I don't have a lot of experience selling stuff online so I figured people would contact me and come by to see the axe for themselves, just from the description and the pictures I presented.... Not the case, so it seems....
I will have some better pics ready soon though, so check them out as I will also add them to my ad in the classified section here on the ICW site,
Greets,
Thomas
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 1:58 pm:   

Hey, look what Bondscoll scored for only 406 DOLLARS!

Ebay Item #190133795016

And look at the condition of that axe!


Ginger

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