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Author Message   Roland_g303 Username: Roland_g303 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:14 pm:    I know everyone talks about the inflated prices on Destroyers nowadays, but check this out! Ebay Item #270167314157 I guess this guy was well noted for his accuracy of vintage Gibsons, but man is that ever expensive for just a body. (He is throwing in a Gibson pickup though). Patrick   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 7:13 pm:    Who's Max? Looks to me like the World's Premier Luthier is a CNC machine. (I may be wrong and will prob'ly be severely chastised for this remark from Max's disciples)   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 8:06 pm:    I never heard of Max. "BS" may be Max's last name though. It's like those stupid commercials where they say "limit 5 per order." meanwhile, nobody would even want one of them but they attach false significance to it by making it seem like it's something special, when it's not. How's about take the $4k and buy an ar5000 instead, a complete, perfect, functioning one. And... send Max a photo of it.   Roland_g303 Username: Roland_g303 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 8:47 pm:    Here's MAX's website... http://www.maxguitars.com/pages/649910/index.htm not much info on there, but from what I've read people swear by them as being the closest thing to a true original. I also found this from his myspace page .. i was incredibly lucky to live in and around NYC from 1966 to 1974 .. the music scene was incredible and i saw everybody .. mike bloomfield .. eric clapton .. keith richards .. mick taylor .. joe walsh .. jimmy page .. peter green .. tommy bolin .. martin barre .. jeff beck .. stephen stills .. billy gibbons .. duane allman .. i saw all the great BURST players .. i was a total fiend for the 1959 BURST sound .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. my first shop in LA was 'image guitars' from 1978 to 1982 .. i built custom guitars for many famous musicians .. then i opened 'MAX Guitars' which was even more successful .. i built guitars for EDDIE VAN HALEN .. SLASH .. THE EDGE .. LENNY KRAVITZ .. ZAKK WYLDE .. TOM PETTY .. NIKKI SIXX and many others .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. i gained immense notoriety for my replicas of vintage guitars .. especially after SLASH bought one of my 'BURSTS' and used it (and the Derrig) on 'Appetite for Destruction' and the 'Welcome to the Jungle' video .. .. .. .. .. (happy now?) .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. i have recently built a limited set of 9 guitars (five are already sold) which are guaranteed to give a true 1959 BURST sound, especially if real 50's PAFs are put in them .. they are made from the same batch of 50 year old woods that i used to build my famous replicas .. since it's almost impossible to find or even afford one of my replicas, this is a great alternative .. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=us er.viewprofile&friendid=182825519 Patrick   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 9:33 pm:    I've had a good go on a MAX 'Burst' Les Paul and I thought it was pretty average. The binding shrink was way off and it didn't sound that great for a guitar fitted with old PAF's. The weight was good and the Brazzy board was nice but that's it. As far as knock off's go...I've played better. six   Chipsotoole Username: Chipsotoole Registered: 2-2004 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 11:56 pm:    Well that just about wraps it up for Max.....Sixvsix knows what he's talking about....Now if it were a Zemaitis.....We've all heard of him....Haven't we?   Jcmc64 Username: Jcmc64 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 12:54 am:    I've had his site in my favs for years, used to be Flame Max Guitars, and a different url. The old site had tons of info on it, all the pics, and celebrities endorsing him, methods of construction, etc. I only know what others have said about his axes from a Gibson Forum I read. They swear by him over there. He's very particular about his glues and finishes, etc. for authentic burst copy. You used to be able to read in depth about this on that old site. My take--I've never played a real burst, and not many others have either, so how can most who haven't played one really judge\compare?! Kinda silly I thought...it seems a total boutique thing. Gerald Kendrick is also a believer in very old wood though, as many others, and our vintage axes bear that part out, so there's something to this obviosuly. I thought the Glue and Finishes, construction, specs, etc used on real burst was a interesting read on his old site for sure,...but then pay a 100 G for that glue and finish, old wood????!! (I think some of his burst copies were much, much cheaper-- 10-15k or so)   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:02 am:    When I lived in the UK I met/knew a lot of people. I've played several old Bursts. Even had a chance to buy one in 1980. Couldn't afford it then, can't afford it now. They are pretty magical things. It's the weight that got me. That's why I loath 70's Les Pauls. Just too darn heavy. The Historics are much better but the good knock-offs, they're something else. I'm not saying that every MAX is a rough one. That would be silly. I'm saying that the one I played wasn't great. The owner also had a real one and some other knock-offs. Incidentally, someone else States-side made a few excellent Burst knock-off's back in the 70's. Their name now heads up a well respected guitar company. Any ideas who that might be As far as old glue goes...be careful buying a vintage Gretsch. six   Jcmc64 Username: Jcmc64 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:52 am:    That wasn't directed towards you six, rather some of the guys on the Gibson Forum, who I know never played a real Burst. You obviously can make a comparison, based on experience. For the record, I can't judge either of em, cuz I've never held either. But I did dig the info Max went into on the real Burst, from a construction stand point. He knows his stuff in that area.   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:48 pm:    I'm sure if you played several guitars in the 50's/60's, there'd be variation guitar to guitar back then as well, even more so than today since every factory on earth, even the "Custom Shops" all use CNC'd components. Having worked in a vintage guitar shop and played many of the "greats" myself, I can tell you that they weren't all created equally. It would be tough to be "accurate" to a vintage guitar since they weren't "accurate" back then! That's part of the magic, no two were/are identical. I guess if I had 100 g's to spend on a guitar, I'd feel the need to justify it as well, hence the fanatical devotion of people who've purchased them? Maybe they want you to think they have something you can't, and belong to a priveleged and unique club at the same time? The seventies guitars were definitely MUCH heavier, though.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:24 am:    Jcm... Cool I wasn't taking it personally anyway. Just throwing in my 2 bobs worth. GW - I agree, they are all different. I think the old Fenders are the epitome of that. Some I've strummed are totally horrid and others have been wonderful. Surely then the good ones were made on payday and the bad ones on Mondays. six

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