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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:01 pm:   

With flight case. Looks nice. Priced on the high side?

Ebay Item #130162981635


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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:09 pm:   

We've already seen some of the seller's other items. They're nice, but also priced high.

mk
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:39 pm:   

Wow, black with a flight case. This will be interesting. I wonder if it will end up going overseas?
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Grateful66
Username: Grateful66

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:39 pm:   

This guy is stacked. He should change his eBay I.D. to "Flightcase". Too bad he's so ambitious :-(
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Trisound
Username: Trisound

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:49 pm:   

Beautiful!! Very nice indeed.
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Grateful66
Username: Grateful66

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:52 pm:   

Tri, How did I know you were gonna chime in on this one?
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 7:05 am:   

If you buy a "decent" LP from that era, you got to pay the double amount of money!

I like to look at it from that point of view!!

They look so gorgious in black, could buy it just for the colour.

Holmis63
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 8:51 am:   

The seller, Wesstepp, has a few other very tasty vintage Ibanez for auction:

1977 2622:
Ebay Item #130162322942

1979 MC500 (already being discussed in another thread):
Ebay Item #130162976157

1979 ST300:
Ebay Item #130162978976

1979 ST50
Ebay Item #130151082778
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Trisound
Username: Trisound

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:25 am:   

G66:

I am a man of simple, yet specific, if not predictable tastes...

In other words, I knows what I likes...and these days, these ebony beauties are catching my eye!
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Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor

Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:34 am:   

The seller also had the Brownburst 2670. He has/had an impressive collection. I'm a bit surprised about the pricing difference between the 2622 and the 2619. A black 26xx artist in that condition is far more rare than an AV 2622. I'm real tempted to jump on the 19, even at that price.

js
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 10:41 am:   

Yeah, that is tempting. And the neckjoint looks like new, no laquer crack or other issues as far as one can see!
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Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor

Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 11:59 am:   

Well, now its not tempting. The seller just raised the price to 2K...
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 12:57 pm:   

Seller watches this board.
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 4:36 pm:   

Yes, and it's a small world. I sold to him the GT Trio that he's selling now.

mk
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 1:43 pm:   

Could be a first run '79 AR300...couldn't it?
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 2:12 pm:   

I think that is a 2619, smooth heel, super80:s, the old inlay on the headstock, thin body, gold plated cavity covers....

Holmis63
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 2:37 pm:   

...which are ALL appointments of the first AR line released in late '78.

I have a hard time believing you've missed the plethora of discussions on that year's Artist models as you've been out here for quite some time.

ps...too bad about the knobs on this one...
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 2:55 pm:   

Strings: yes, I agree.

As far as I'm concerned, 1st generation AR300 = last generation 2619.

mk
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 3:44 pm:   

Well, obviosly iīve missed the plethora of discussions regarding that years Artists. Iīve always considered the thick body, not that smooth heel, super58:s and V2:s, the new headstock inlay... to be signs of an AR Artist. You learn something new everyday!!

Holmis63
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 3:51 pm:   

And if, 1st generation AR300 = last generation 2619, you canīt make distinction between the two Artist models that year? Is that right?

Holmis63
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 10:21 pm:   

According to the catalogs, the 2619 ended in 1978 and the AR300 started in 1979. As far as I know, the late 2619's and early AR300's (until mid 1980) were the same. At that point, the transition was in full swing.

Maybe Dave_G can confirm...???

mk

mk
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Fox
Username: Fox

Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:18 am:   

Holmis, these "transition"models could share old and new features, or be completely "old", for example I guess that every AR 400 has thin body, smooth heel and Super 80-pickups, there are several AR 500s with Super 80's and so on..Black 300-500 Artists are very rare btw.. :-)
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 11:35 am:   

OK, thanks for the info! I own a october ī80 ar100 and a ī82 ar500 and they have all the "new", post transition features. Thatīs why iīm interested in one of those pre transition artists, especially in black, a black 2622 would be nice!

I also own a ī77 Bob weir that has this thick and fat tone from the neck super80! That one have almost all the features of a 26xx but not the mahogany body that would take the edge of the trebly and harch bridge super80!

Well, you canīt get it all, or maybe you can??

Holmis63
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Fox
Username: Fox

Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 11:45 am:   

Holmis, I have not been able to find out the number of black 2622's at all, however black AR 500's exist,there were 7 such made in –79 and 46 in –80..
I think that in those "higher number" artists the wood is not up-to-standards, and that is why they have been finished in opaque black. A great "rescue colour" to hide mis-coloured or otherwise visually not excellent wood.
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Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor

Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 6:15 pm:   

Anyone else notice that the seller has changed his description and states the guitar is Midnight Olive, not black?
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 7:22 am:   

Fox, have you ever actually seen a black ar500? Are any photos around? Anywhere? I would jump all over one of those if given the opportunity. How's your ar5000 doing?
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:03 am:   

Partial pic of a black AR500. I know there are more pics somewhere. I think Dave_G has a black AR500.

http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/12 /3283.html

mk
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Jim777
Username: Jim777

Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:27 am:   

Lowered the price again as well. Still more than I would pay, but all the changing of pricing (and that fact it isn't an auction at all) has put me off this one altogether. When he relists it he should just set a re3serve and start it at a dollar.
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Trisound
Username: Trisound

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 11:21 am:   

I agree. An AR500 has to be a smokin' axe to behold.

I asked Dave_g if he had one or knew of one available when I bought the 2700 from him a while back.

MK: I had done a search on ICW not too long ago to find other pics of black AR500 but only found the same thread that you listed above. A full shot of the guitar would be great to see.
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Holmis63
Username: Holmis63

Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 11:29 am:   

Yes, that price changing and the fact that he spy on this site got me of the hook too!

There is/was a 2622 out on the bay too and that one has a lower BIN price, the fact that it is black doesnīt motivate a higher tag than a 2622!

Holmis63
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Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor

Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 11:54 am:   

Well,

If the seller is watching this forum, then may I suggest to him that his 2619 is black, NOT Midnight Olive.

js
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 1:41 pm:   

Do you have one Dave?
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 3:08 pm:   

Bob, no I have a 2619 (early one with the purfiling) in black and a 2617 in black too (looks like a refinish)
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 10:45 am:   

Dave, I'm glad you mentioned that about the purfling on the 2619 because... the last few I've seen haven't had it so I was kinda wondering if I was mistaken about the model. I guess, from your statement, that it was just the early ones that had it. Why would they stop it? It looks great. So.... there's over 80 black ar500's out there?! Gotts have one. Just gotta. That's a guitar I'd get myself in trouble over financially. They're all nice though... CS, AV, Black would be so interesting to see. And own. Should have one of each! Everyone should.

P.S. - Dave, how's your ar5000 repair job coming along? Any photos? Will it be done by the time you get your new one? Did you ever do anything further with the axe that got lost and found it's way home?

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