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william long
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Help,I can buy a Bob Weir tree of life with case for 1000, my vintage guitar price guide says only 6 were made is that true? It is in about vg+ condition. Afew ash filled holes an face but hardley visible. Are all these guitars heavy? Ive heard stories of them being 13 lbs. It seems like a good deal seeing artists go for 600. Bill willieblong@ameritech.net
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JohnS
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Bill:

I don't have one, but from my conversations with people that do, I'd say they are heavy guitars. I do have an Ash Artist and it's fairly heavy. The Bob Weir is a larger guitar, so....

Also, any guitar that has the brass sustain block under the bridge (late '77, '78, possibly '79s) will be heavier than one without. If your's is a '76, it shouldn't have the block. So, that'll be an extra lb. you won't have to lug around.

Only 6 made? Ahhh, another one of those "Vintage Ibanez Legends". Guitar Stories, Vol. 1 is probably the source of this legend. It quotes a source as saying that only a half-dozen (maybe less) were produced. But, considering how many have been seen/sold, I'd say this estimate of production numbers is in serious error.

This isn't the first Ibanez model that's been attributed with ultra low production numbers, yet a census of owners shows a different story. For a real life example, look at this conversation:

Vintage & Custom Electrics: Only 12 Artwood Twins...Fact or Heresay?
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DDev
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Fortunately for most and unfortunately for some, John S is most correct. There are a lot more out there than just six. I own one and have talked to several others who do as well. I'd say 100 would be a better guess, still that makes it a very rare guitar! Good Luck
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JohnS
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Keeping track of these gitars would be a neat task. Not likely to happen, tho. And then there are some with no serial numbers...then what do you do?

(Mind racing off on a tangent) There was/is a tradition in the watch repair world to engrave names and dates on the inside cover of the watch. Wouldn't it be cool if there were a similar thing in the guitar world? That way you could pull off the control cavity cover and find names and dates of previous owners!

Ehhh, we'd probably only find graffitti, like "Korn rules!"

Just kidding Kornaholics! J
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william long
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Bill Long,I am new to the computer and amaized at all the fast responses and welth of information. Is 1000 dollars a fair price for the 76 Bob Weir pro. Id say its a 8 of 10 condition . The seller says the frets are low and flat is that standard? Or is a refret in order . I used to own a artist and remember it being les paul like in the frets not a fretless wonder the case looks org. yellow lineing. If I buy the guitar i will post a pix when i learn how. Thanks for the help guys!
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Jimi D
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

My Bob Weir standard had low, fat frets, a wide board, and weighed an insane amount - the weight was why I let it go, tho' there were other setup issues that bothered me (I just couldn't get the damned thing intonated properly, so it would always sound a little out of tune with open chords...) I feel that guitars like the Weir live and die by their condition, and "holes in the face" sound like a real issue to me - beat up guitars are only collectable when they sound and play like no other (eg: 60s strats), and I didn't fine the Weir to have playability warranting collectability. The vines probably add a lot to the appeal, but you can buy ALOT more guitar for 1000 clams if you're willing to look elsewhere (like at Ibanez/Mann/Greco full size jazz boxes from the '70s and early '80s, ferinstance :-). Just my opinion, ymmv, etc
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Blackknife (Blackknife)
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 7:22 pm:   

I see the 2681's going for 1500 to 1800 bucks on eBay all the time, but imho people are paying way too much for them. They are gorgeous guitars, and I long to own another one (had 2 in the late 80's) but I truly believe that bidding wars on places like eBay have put these guitars out of reach for many who genuinely appreciate them.

Jeff
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Blackknife (Blackknife)
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 7:23 pm:   

BTW for anyone who is thinking of buying one, and has never played one, they are extremely neck heavy. Not very well ballanced at all

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