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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 6:22 pm: | |
What would your opinions be about the value of this guitar. It's the only one.
 I would like as many opinions as possible (before I sell my 2 favorite guitars to buy this one.) Thanx folks. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 11:45 pm: | |
Bob,
If I may be so bold to ask....
What is it about this guitar that makes you lust after it so much? You have two BEAUTIFUL guitars up for (potential) sale to fund the purchase of this one of a kind guitar.
While it is a beautiful and rare bird, I'm just curious if owning this guitar is going to be everything that you are looking for. After all, it's only made of wire and wood and someday, it will be dust (ok, and some plastic parts).
I know there are some Ibanez collectors that seem to have an endless supply of cash (and room to store the guitars). I am not one of them... so I'll leave the appraisal to those folks.
It seems that you could get yourself an ST production model and keep your other two guitars in your stable. And heck, with the money you saved after switching to Geico, you could pick up a couple more vintage Ibanez guitars and a PRS.
-Brent |
Boo
Username: Boo
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 2:50 am: | |
Very pretty guitar. I would have to know how it plays before I took the plunge. Looks heavy and I've never been a fan of active electronics in guitars. I'd say 1500 tops but that's just me. I'm poor. I'm sure it's worth twice that. But that's a lot of coin to throw out for a dolled up Studio. It's sound like you want it bad and if that's the case grab that pretty thing. |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 9:41 am: | |
Hey 'Zilla - Are you sure that this is a neck-thru design? I noticed that what looks to be a center cut is much wider than what I nornally see for neck-thru. Maybe part of a cap. Then I saw Freak raise that question on the other thread and though you might have missed it.
Not sure if that is important and I'm sure set-neck at min. - just fyi |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 10:02 am: | |
It has the same joint as my ST100 and that is a set in neck. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 10:58 am: | |
This guitar is killing me. |
Bigmike
Username: Bigmike
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 4:06 pm: | |
Bob,
You made the prudent choice here Bro, it is a nice axe - I think the thing that struck me the most about it is the (Brazilian) dark wood contrasting with the blonde, an especially tasty guitar. And that is coming from a guy that doens't like that style of instrument... I like tops all one type of wood...
But again, you did the smart thing... MAYBE later the guy will come DOWN in price and you can get it (and keep the other guitars). Fingers crossed on that one. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 6:19 pm: | |
I can tell you right now who ends up with this guitar and his name starts with an "O". |
Roadartstar
Username: Roadartstar
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 9:48 pm: | |
Heres a pic of my mc500nt and friends dont get rid of it!
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Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:54 pm: | |
Something whacked this thread. Must be that whitespace in Roadstar's image...
Anyway, Bob dude... Hit this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:112&item= 7350882863 |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:55 pm: | |
http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7350882863\
Try this link. |
Bigmike
Username: Bigmike
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:59 pm: | |
Don't wanna sound like Bob but I had my eye on that one. I kid you not... Bob, go for it if it interests you. I just my car back today and want money for going to Monterrey this weekend... Nice tho.. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 8:08 pm: | |
Its open season man. Smoke'em if you got'em. Bob could be offline all night too! |
Bigmike
Username: Bigmike
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 8:29 pm: | |
Yeah, it's nice letting a guy grab something that is his lifelong Holy Grail instrument once in a while - but it is eBay and any mook is eligible. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:14 pm: | |
Looks like it just bumped up...
I don't know if she's the holy grail, or a pacifier  |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:26 pm: | |
I took a crack at it... got out sniped. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:05 pm: | |
Yo dudes...
This slipped my email, but on August 24th, someone emailed me with pics of a guitar EXACTLY LIKE the Studio from USACUSTOM.
Check it.
More to come. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:06 pm: | |
Here's the second pic.
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I guess it's true, that there was 2 of these made!!!!
Keep hope alive. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:08 pm: | |
Doh
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Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:10 pm: | |
I guess he emailed me because I posted the pics for USACUSTOM...
He's overseas if it makes any difference, and it sounded like english is a second language. I won't post his info, but he's more than welcome to step forward here. |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:43 pm: | |
The only difference is this ones been played a lot. Well that knocks the value of the other one by half in my opinion. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:45 pm: | |
Yep... exactly....
I've requested more pics and also sent the owner a link to this site. |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:50 pm: | |
The tuners are not the ivoroid ones like Usa's and the volume from what I can see looks like a surgrip knob. I hope he sends you more pics. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 11:28 pm: | |
The knobs are different, not sure about the tuners.
I feel like a tool for missing that email. My Gmail account just gets so much junk. I only stumbled across it because I was looking for messaages with attachments (paperclip icon). |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 10:26 am: | |
He sent some more pics.
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Boogieknight
Username: Boogieknight
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 10:36 am: | |
I saw one like this except it didn't have the EQ about a year ago for sale on ebay canada. I went for just under $400 USD.
I definatly knew I was going to regret letting that one slip by. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 10:37 am: | |
I see some differences.
The owner said that Jim Donahue said there were 12 of these models made in 1980. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 4:15 pm: | |
If there are 12......... where did the "one-of-a-kind" denotation come from? And... if there's 12, I feel much better about not dropping $4k on the axe. I am also happy I did not part with the ar1200av because... I loved it when I got it and... I like it even more now. The ar1200av is really a sweet axe (if you can get your hands on one, buy it, you won't regret it.) |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 4:41 pm: | |
My original question was... how much do you think this guitar is worth. I am still interested to see you guys enter an actual dollar amount anyway. Taking everythinbg into consideration, what dollar amount would you put on it? |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 5:41 pm: | |
It looks like a flash Studio to me. They don't fetch much and globally are probably the least desirable pre 80's Ibanez model out there.
But, it is a smart looking version so I'll start the bidding at $750.00
six |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 9:48 pm: | |
Bob - some of the folks here might have more input on the reasons for the misconception that only one of these guitars was made.
We could throw around dollar figures all day.. 750 is one figure. I think it'd be a fair price. But I'm always looking for the killer deals.
I say put that sucker on eBay and see how much she flies for! Although the owner of the 1980 model isn't selling, but it sounds like the 1979 is?? |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 9:57 pm: | |
The reason for the one of a kind misconception was when UsaCustom contacted Hoshino USA about the guitar and they faxed him the order form for it. They said that only one of these came through the Bensalem facilty and it was a custom order. I don't think they told him it was the only one in the world. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 10:10 pm: | |
Maybe its time to move this to the Jim Donahue forum? |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 8:11 am: | |
Freak, thanx for that insight. I wonder if "O" has this thing already. I wonder if the owner still wants what he wants for it, if he no longer believes it's a one-of. And... A big reason I was hoping for solid dollar amount estimated is because... I would have taken that input and run it by the owner in an attempt to bring his asking price down. If I could have said to him "Look, here's a printout from the ICW site that indicates the most knowledgible Ibanez people believe your guitar is worth $750 and you are asking $4k for it, maybe we can work something out." That's why I was hoping for solid dollar amounts from you guys. The other info/insight you have provided is also greatly appreciated though. |
Fox
Username: Fox
Registered: 02-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 8:28 am: | |
Hi dear friends, here´s my 2 cents.. I guess there must be more than 12 units.. the models in question..
-81 SPECIALS
ST390
Body: Rosewood on Ash
Neck: Maple 3ply
Fingerboard: Ebony, Abalone dot inlays, 24 Frets
Machine Heads: Smooth Tuner
Scale: 25˝"
Pickups: V-2
Controls: 3 Way Toggle, 1 Master Volume, 2 Band Mid/Treble EQ-2 System, 2 Tri Sound
Bridge: Gibraltar
Tailpiece: Quick Change
Control Knobs: Sure Grip
Hardware: Gold plated
Finishes: RW (Rosewood Top)
ST370
Body: Rosewood on Ash
Neck: Maple 3ply
Fingerboard: Ebony, Abalone dot inlays, 24 Frets
Machine Heads: Smooth Tuner
Scale: 25˝"
Pickups: V-2
Controls: 3 Way Toggle, 2 Volume, 2 Tone, 1 Tri Sound
Bridge: Gibraltar
Tailpiece: Quick Change
Control Knobs: Sure Grip
Hardware: Gold plated
Finishes: RW (Rosewood Top) |
Agr
Username: Agr
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 9:51 am: | |
If it matters to anyone...higher end models of the Studio line have a much different tone than the lower end models. Both play extremely well but the lower end ST50 and ST55 have a mahogony body which give the guitar much more of a warm Gibson SG type tone. The higher end models have the maple cores (with ash wings...like my ST300) giving the guitar a much brighter tone. FYI for the tone freaks out there.
As far a ebay pricing goes on the Studio line, I really like these guitars and have been looking for a mint example for over 5 years...quite simply put there aren't very many mint examples out there. People bought these guitars new in the late 70s for a little over $250.00 with the harshell case. Pretty affordable set neck high quality guitar. As a result they were played and abused so most ebay examples are pretty beat up. Not real representative of what the market is really willing to pay for a near mint to mint example of these guitars. |
Ronald
Username: Ronald
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 12:29 pm: | |
Hello I`m the owner of this guitar and there is no type(like st 390 or so )only the serial number 805976.
Ronald |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 1:04 pm: | |
Welcome Ronald,
With all the chat and debate here, do you still think it's worth $4000 Ronald?
BTW - I'm not personally interested.
six |
Ronald
Username: Ronald
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 1:22 pm: | |
Sorry,
the correct serial number is E805976,and I don`t know how much this guitar is worth.I´ve never thought about it.I apologize for my bad english,because I´m living in Nuremberg,Germany.
Ronald |
Bigmike
Username: Bigmike
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 1:22 pm: | |
Hey Ronald,
Welcome to ICW (Ibanez Collector's World). Real nice guitar you have there. You see a good case of human nature in action here - people doubting and also trying to save themselves some money. So watch the discussions but don't take any of it personally. Also keep in mind how you might feel/react if you were the potential buyer and you saw a guitar you JUST HAD TO HAVE !!! LOL...
Anyway welcome to our board. Some great guitars and people pass thru these doors. (I too have no personal interest in the instrument, tho it is really cool looking). |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 3:41 pm: | |
Another person emailed me with pictures of his Studio ST390.
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/14/2739.html
Here's his pic.
 |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:00 am: | |
Ronald is NOT the owner of the guitar that I posted here. He may own the one on Ebay. A guy named Gary owns the guitar/photo that I originally posted in this thread. |
Ronald
Username: Ronald
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 1:07 pm: | |
Sorry bobzilla,
I own the same guitar that you posted here,and brentm posted the photos of my guitar.
Ronald |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 2:20 pm: | |
No apology necessary there Ronald. I knew you were not trying to state that you owned the guitar that I posted, but I just wanted to make sure everything was clear here. |
Brentm
Username: Brentm
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 2:24 am: | |
Oh my.
Sorry for creating confusion, I thought it was clear. Three separate guitars + owners.
I'm afraid only eBay would be the true bearer of the value of these guitars. Who's sellin? |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 8:49 am: | |
The guitar Bobzilla posted was offered for an astonishing $4000.00! I don't think it will happen even if it was one of a kind! |
Ronald
Username: Ronald
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 8:52 am: | |
Hello,
Ronald is definitely not selling his guitar
Ronald |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 9:59 am: | |
I sent the owner of the guitar I posted above an e-mail with a link to this thread, hoping he would read it and maybe come down to a realistic price for his guitar. He seems like a nice fellow, but... his reply was kinda "overboard." He thinks WE (ICW Guys) don't know what we're talkin' about in regards to his guitar and... he's stickin' to the "one-of-a-kind" belief and he's not budging on the $4000. The difference between the $4000 he wants and the $750 mentioned above is quite dramatic. The more I think about it, the more I realize that $4000 is actually ridiculous. Think about the guitars you could have for $4000. First of all, how could his guitar be worth more than the new BWM? You could get 2 decent Les Paul's for that money too. (sorry 'bout that.) An Artwood Twin. etc. etc. etc. Why does he think he's got the only one when there seems to be at least 12 of them? I dunno. But, it's his guitar and I guess he's not in need of money so he doesn't even have to test the waters to see what the true value is. In any event...... I am glad I did not sell my guitars to get his. Nice axe though. I'd like to own it... or one of the others. P.S. - If anyone's in New York, I'm on radio station WBAB 102.3 FM Oct. 3,4, and 5. 11:50 pm. They are playing a few of my songs, if you care to listen. |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 11:46 am: | |
IMHO- I believe that E-bay – good as it may be – has created a greed culture where everything is ‘rare’. An another forum I’ve heard of guys spending $2000 for a 50’s LP scratchplate ( a modified one at that) and $10,000 for pick up rings. Again IMHO I think its all gone banana’s – too much money and too little sense. I’ve got Ibanez parts on my Gibbo coz they’re better than Gibson’s parts (which I also have). How can you justify a $2000 scratchplate – would by me a Strat and an Ibanez. $4000 for a used Studio - CRAZY!!! |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 02-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 9:15 am: | |
Billy:
I don't know if I'd agree with the statement that "E-bay – good as it may be – has created a greed culture where everything is ‘rare’."
It's not ebay, it's the bidders that are acting ridiculously. Some people just seem to have too much money to waste. |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 9:35 am: | |
ZIlla - Show him the "Cowboy"...and the Tag.
Artist, Musician or whatever, the "Cowboy" has pretty much set the cap on all Ibanez. Best price has been around 4,500.
I think Gary may own his LE a bit longer. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 10:42 am: | |
Well, I sent Gary this link, haven't heard from him since. |