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Author Message   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:54 am:    It this guitar original? I've never seen a finish like this and I'm no expert, however, I think the hardware may be changed too? http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7368822015   Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 09-2004 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 5:06 pm:    Mk, Yeah, I was just looking at that also. The finnish looks original, but the inlays look to have been added along with the different pups, control nobs. I'm curious about the stamp on the neck. I have seen that before, but not with just 3 digits. Early attempts by Ibanez to stamp serial no's were done on the fretboard. Anyone have any ideas?   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 6:12 pm:    I've never seen that finish before.   Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 7:41 pm:    I think it is a re-finished 2618 with dot inlaids replaced by square blocks. The hardware are non-original also. Ace   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 7:45 pm:    Isnt this like the one that a member bought earlier this year (Dave-g?). That one had blocks too. Finish on thhis looks original. six   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 8:45 pm:    Six, This guitar is nothing like the one I bought earlier ths year. The guitar I bought has factory original block inlays & a cloud stop with a tuneomatic type bridge-this one has obvious aftermarket inlays (or might even be peal & stick "ablams")as evdienced by the split marker on the 12th fret-used to cover the two dots that were stock. I have seen this finish on the very early '76 Artists. It almost looks "hand rubbed". The 2619's with the purfiling have this type of finish. I think the hardware on this guitar is original-remember the first Artists had Gibson type stops. The knobs are aftermarket. As far as the fretboard stamps...I think I read somewhere that those marks were used for promotional artist samples ? I have a 2399 & a Custom Agent that both have similar "Z" series fretboard numbers and no serial numbers. The most interesting thing about this guitar is the case ! What a nice case !   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:02 pm:    Is that case special? Is looks the same as the case that came with my AR-500.   Mr_roadstar Username: Mr_roadstar Registered: 06-2002 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 2:32 am:    Nothin' special about that case. My '77 2618-12 had one just like it. The finish in it was similar also. Steve   Fox Username: Fox Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 7:39 am:    I was wondering the missing dots on the 24th fret..My 2618-12 has them as well as all other 2618s I have seen..   Orval Username: Orval Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 9:32 am:    heres a scan of a 2619 from the elger days, note the stop tailpiece. knobs are non original on the "mis identified 2618" as well as the pickup covers missing. the case is most likely early 80's.   Orval Username: Orval Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 9:40 am:    lets try that again   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 11:24 am:    I don't think this was mis-identified at all. It has 24 frets and no coil tap. It certainly looks more like a 18 than a 19 to me. As far as the "inlays" are concerned, its hard to tell if they're real or not without personal inspection. They're certainly not the three-piece blocks like those used in the 2619s. Fox, good call on the missing 24th fret marker. I wonder if its possible that they weren't marking the 24th back then? Dave, isn't your block-inlay 18 also missing the 24th fret marker? The case is identical to that which came with my 83 105, so I agree its a mid 80s case. "A little scratching on the back"? Are you kidding me? That's a major case of buckle rash. Regardless, I think its a nice early specimen. I have a Scruggs with "Y05" stamped on the fingerboard. I'd love to get confirmation on its purpose, although Dave's speculation is the story I've heard as well. js   Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 11:29 am:    "I was wondering the missing dots on the 24th fret..My 2618-12 has them as well as all other 2618s I have seen.." Chech out this previous thread: http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/12/4965.html   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 12:05 pm:    Jeff, My guitar has a very nice mots block inlay on the 24 fret. I agree that its a modified 2618   Fox Username: Fox Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 12:15 pm:    Ace, I see..The one with narrow T-O-M bridge.. Looks like another Ibanez experimental/added feature... It is a great way to determine old 2618s if it is "standard" on all those..   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 6:27 pm:    def a 2618 Lets have another pic of your one to compare please Dave. six

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