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Author Message   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 8:23 am:    Hello, everyone. Will someone of you give me information on the guitar shown in the following URL? http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/87234651 (Sorry it's a Japan Yahoo Auction's.) The seller says it isn't a 2619, and I agree to him. But, as this was unavailable here in Japan back then, I don't know what it is....   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 8:33 am:    Hasenobu: Looks like an early version 2619. They have the LP style neck joint, wide Nashville bridge, 1-piece cloud tailpiece and 1 mini-toggle (single coil and humbucker). It's hard to tell in the pictures, but it should also have abalone body binding, like on the Professional series.   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 9:15 am:    Johns, Wow...! Thank you very much!! The guitars from this era are totally unfamiliar to me.... I do appreciate your prompt response!!   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 9:38 am:    Johns, Although I feel very much obliged to you, please let me make sure of one thing. You wrote that the mini-toggle switch is for coil-tapping. But, looking at the catagolue scan of 1978 (shown in ibanez-vintage-page) , the earlier 2619 comes with a "phase" switch.... (And the machineheads, bridge, and tailpiece seem to be different....)   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 8:14 pm:    Hasenobu: This version of the 2619, available for most of 1977, doesn't seem to be in the catalogs. But they are pretty well documented by the ICW members. Check out these old threads: http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=12&post=2958#POST295 8 http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=12&post=28447#POST28 447 I could be wrong about the single-coil vs. phase function of the mini-toggle. I assumed it was like the Randy Scruggs models I have, which seemed like single coil taps because of the drop in volume.   B5erik Username: B5erik Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:11 pm:    Not bad - looks like a replacement tailpiece (I've seen that kind on several vintage Ibanez guitars), but a nice guitar. Too bad I don't have Japanese fonts on my computer. Too bad I dont read Japanese either...   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:17 pm:    B5erik: Why do you think it has a replacement tailpiece?   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:31 pm:    Here's another '77 model with the same bridge and tailpiece, except it's a model 2618: http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=12&post=13701#POST13 701   B5erik Username: B5erik Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:41 pm:    I was under the impression (take that as you will) that the tailpieces on the Artists were always the "slotted" models. I am certainly no expert, so if those were used for a few months that would be news to me - but there's a lot of stuff that would be news to me, so there you go! It's a nice guitar either way...   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:44 pm:    Eric...its all original and somewhat rare.....   B5erik Username: B5erik Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:59 pm:    I didn't know that those were original tailpieces! I originally assumed that they were replacements since they are so different from what Ibanez usually used on the Artists. Thanks for the heads up! That is definitely one heck of a nice guitar!   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 3:51 am:    Re Hasenobu 2619 find. I like to call this one the "Type 2" 2619. There were four major changes to this model from 76 to 79. If someone can kindly send me pics of all the different models I will be happy to do a quick 2619 buyers guide for the site. six   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 8:15 am:    Hello. Thank you very much for a lot of information, guys!! I guess I need to modify the AR spec sheet in many ways.... BTW, excuse me for citing Japan Yahoo Auction again, but I believe not a few of you might be interested in this one: http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f43944591 The starting price is about US$700, and there's no bidders at the moment. (The seller is a friend of mine.)   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 8:52 am:    Hasenobu: Glad we can help. You say that these early model Artists were not avaialable in Japan? What's the earliest Artist model you have seen look like? That AR2000CRS is beautiful! I wonder what shipping and Custom fees would be to US?   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 10:45 am:    Johns, As far as I know, Ibanez officially started selling their guitars for the Japan market in 1979. Back then, there were a few Japanese musicians with Artist models, and I do remember one of them was a later version of 2619, though I didn't know the exact name of the guitar at that time.... Re: the AR2000CRS, I'm sorry but I don't know how much it costs to send it to US. If you are really interested in this one, please e-mail me.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 5:56 pm:    Please provide more details on the AR2000CRS (year made, push/pull taps??) mk   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 8:42 pm:    Michael, AR2000s were, unlike overseas markets, available in the year 2000 only here in Japan, and they were treated as a "limited" model, so there's as few as 100 AR2000s here. (50 for VV and 50 for CRS.) The guitar I cited has a serial number "F0015617" and some parts are replacements (white knob on the toggle switch, white rubber-washer, and white PU rings), but the electric circuit remains unmodified. (No push/pull taps.) I've got information of the BIN price from the seller, and now I'm going to find out the shipping fee.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 9:50 pm:    Hasenobu: Any chance we can see scans of that catalog? mk   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:05 am:    Michael, That catalog? You mean one for AR2000? Well, I'm afraid they didn't publish any listing AR2000 models for Japan's market. As I wrote above, AR2000 models were a kind of "spot" production, and, therefore, they just announced the sale to some majior music stores, I hear. (That's reasonable when we think of the small number of the "production.")   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 8:10 am:    Updating what I wrote above. I found out how much it would cost to send a guitar from Japan to the US. This afternoon, I packed an AR100 with a hard shell case in a cardboard box, and brought it to an office that deals with international shipping. Of course, the fee varies depending on the weight. And the clerk told me it weighed 9 kilogram, and it would cost about US $250. The clerk also mentioned that 10% of the guitar's price will be charged as a tariff.   Hasenobu Username: Hasenobu Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 7:58 am:    Hello. First please accept my apology for causing unnecessary worris about the shipping fee from Japan to the US. As Michael mention in another thread (Brown 2617!), it's something between US $100-150 by using EMS offered by Japan's post office. There may be a "tariff" problem, but I'm not sure about this. The BIN price for the AR2000CRS is approximately US $870, for your information.

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