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Username: Harry

Registered: 03-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 3:32 am:   

Hi All!

I need your help with this Les Paul model I've found on Ebay. I'm in doubt about the model number we're talking about here. It has features of two different model numbers:

** It could be a 2351M because of the striped top, the chrome hardware, the creme plastic parts. BUT: it has no split diamond headstock inlay and it should have one because of the "open book" head shape. Some catalogue pictures might show no inlay, but that's because the pictures were retouched in order to use them for other brand catalogues as well. Besides: the stripe pattern on the 2351M is more of a regular "pin-stripe" type and these stripes are more wavey like on the model 2340.

** It could be a 2351AV, because the upper bout (surrounding the 3-way switch) is not completely sprayed dark (like it's the matter with the 2351M) but only has dark rims, following the body contour and because there is no headstock inlay (the AV only had "Ibanez" on the headstock - no inlay). BUT: The 2351 AV did not have stripes and had gold finished hardware.

Or is it even a 2340???

Here are the pics. Tell me what you think. (Apart from al this fuzzin': it's a nice guitar though!)
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Kind greetz,
Username: Captainibanez

Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:00 am:   

Harry, I think that this is a spot production model to be honest...and its 200% better than its original :-)

Here is some food for thought...check out these scans and make your own opinion.

Things are still good downunder...still getting a average of 5 a night from your web page...keep up the good work.

Captain Ibanez :-)

and this one

then this one
Username: Captainibanez

Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:05 am:   

Harry, whilst things maybe a bit different from my scans...you will understand why they maybe made say 100 units for distributors to see how they would go out in the market place. It doesn't appear as a stock line in any of the catalogues...thats why I feel its a spot production model to test the water so to speak...I personally would have bought half of the original run to sell to the market place at that time. It would have to be classified as a Rare Bird !

Captain Ibanez :-)
Username: Billy_porter

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 4:49 pm:   


You would not expect to see a split diamond on a replica with Trapezoid position markers. IMHO Ibanez tried to replicate Gibson models so the model you’re looking at is a replica of a LP Standard
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   

Looks like an experimental good old 59 sunburst replica to me. No inlays on the headstock as the original bursts wouldn't have any either. Just a silk screen "Les Paul Model" so no way they would put that on there. Tokai tried that and got their knuckles wrapped.

Another thing that strikes me about the flame top is its classic "eastern maple" look as on the original 50's sunbursts. Maybe the factory went out their way to choose some authentic looking maple.

Maybe it all got too pricey so they gave up.

Harry, is it a bolt neck?


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