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Strick
Username: Strick

Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 9:38 pm:   

Hello all,

I can't quite remember when I bought this, but I think it was 1975. I've been trying to find out what the model number is, but I can't seem to find one quite like it. It has no serial number, star tuners, bolt on neck, open book headstock...... is it a 2350? Everything is original, and it's in quite good shape since the world has gotten in the way of my playing the last few years. I'm thinking of selling it, but I'm not sure if I can bring myself to part with it.
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Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide.
Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   

Strick:

Looks like a '73-'75 model 2398. The only thing is all the catalogs show it with a gold covered pickup in the neck position. However, 2 uncovered zebra pups were very common on other models, of the same perid.

Here's a link to the '73 catalog page:
http://www.break-even.org/ibzscans/1973EZ/73-2-3.jpg
Strick
Username: Strick

Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:09 am:   

Thank you Johns............that's her allright!
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 1:55 am:   

Beautiful imitation of a '76 maple neck Les Paul!

Isn't it possible the owner just removed the gold cover? I don't know whether the coils beneath that gold cover were zebra, but they already had them in stock.
I think that from an aesthetical point of view, either two covered or two uncovered pickups give the most beautiful Les Paul look. The original setup looks as if it were customized.

But there are sound advantages in this original setup:
The cover also makes the sound more mellow. In the neck position, which is mostly used in jazz, this is desirable for jazz guitarists.
An uncovered PU in bridge position allows you to put the magnet poles just a bit closer to the strings for more output in rock solos.

Personally I would have chosen two gold covered pickups on a guitar with gold hardware for the looks. When a bridge pickup is really good, it will sound allright even with the cover on it.
But I like a jazz tone.

I guess the former owner was more into rock, and chose to remomve the cover.
Looks nice too.


Greetz

Ginger Ale
Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 03-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 3:46 am:   

Gemberbier

You realise that the Gibby Les Paul with a maple fretboard was released in 1976 while the Ibanez Les Paul with maple fretboard already existed in 1973/1974?
So in this case we might say that this is not a copy of any Gibby Les Paul existing at that time.
Gibson copying Ibanez????

Greetz,
Harry
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:09 am:   

I guess Gibson had to, because using ebony or rosewood made the price difference with Ibanez enormous.
Gibson then was operating as a price fighter in a battle it could never win.

Is was the worst period for them, with crappy quality. Going for high end products was a much better move.

Greetz,

Ginger ALe
Strick
Username: Strick

Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:11 am:   

Hi Gemberbier,

I was in the music store the day the Ibanez rep delivered this guitar. The pup setup is the way it was delivered straight from Ibanez. I bought it before it even made it to the display rack in the store, so any customization was done by Ibanez.

Play on and be excellent to each other,

Strick
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:01 am:   

As I wrote:
"I think that from an aesthetical point of view, either two covered or two uncovered pickups give the most beautiful Les Paul look. The original setup looks as if it were customized."

(I meant the two different pickups in the catalogue).

Yours looks better!

Greetz

Ginger Ale
Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 03-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:30 am:   

Yep, you are both right:
The Ibanez guitars (especially the Les Paul models) didn't always look the same as they were pictured in the catalogues. Guess they were not always accurate when it came to put the hardware or the pickups in. It sometimes gives the idea that it was not an issue at that time: as long as they could find parts that would fit and as a result would give yet another guitar to sell, then they'd just did it that way.....
Some "late-copy era" Les Paul models can have different bridges and stop-tailpieces also.
Think about the Custom Agent: sometimes they have the "Ibanez"-embossed pickup covers, sometimes they dont. Sometimes they have the embossed pickguard, sometimes they don't.

Kind greetz,
Harry
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:36 am:   

Hi Rick,

I got your mail and tried to answer you but my reply keeps getting bounced.

Your questions are already answered here BTW.

Paul

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