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Dale Williams
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am:   

I recently acquired a very interesting guitar. It appears at first glance to be a 59 standard. It is tobacco sunburst. The headstock has a gibson logo and les paul logos, but the gibson logo is a decal instead of inlaid. The guitar plays and sounds great. The top appears to be solid maple, nicely figured but not a flame top.
The neck appears to be one piece maple, and the back appears to be mahogany but has some nice stripes in the wood. I sent a video representation to George Gruhn and he said he thought the guitar was a forgery. The serial number is inked on back of headstock in black ink, and is
9 8762. I'll get some photos soon and maybe someone can help me figure out just what this guitar is.
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am:   


It sounds like an interesting mystery. Ibanez made copies of the 59LP. How accurate they were I don't know. I hope you didn't pay a real '59 Gibson price for it.

If you have a problem with uploading pictures, email me and I'll help out. If you have more than 2 or 3, maybe we can make a special page of it's own to keep from bogging down the discussion board software.

Paula in Auz
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am:   

I have a LesPaul Replica which I have inherited from a family member. I would like to sell it as I don't play this gituar very well(I'm more comfortable on acoustic). I'm having alot of trouble finding a value on this gituar & in contacting local music shops have had quotes ranging from $300-$1000 AUD (austrailian).
This gituar is in excellent condition, made in the 70's, firebird, lovely bluesy/jazzy gituar.
If anyone can help me with a valuation it would be highly appretiated.
Aaron Hancock
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am:   

Let me say that is a very nice guitar! I'm not sure on a value for it though. I haven't seen too many of them sold, but the few I have seen lately went for around 500 or so dollars US. Their real value may be higher.
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 10:25 pm:   

I'm not 100% sure what model i have, but some have tried to identify it as model No2351BS

I hope someone can help me out, give an estimate of it's worth, or offer a model number. I can have more photos posted this weekend at the same site.


Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 5:28 am:   

Hi Chris!
Yes, I think it's a 2351BS allright! With an added Carvin pickup and some none-original switches.
Vule (Vule)
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 6:44 pm:   

Paula, depending on the condition of the guitar, i'd imagine it would be worth approx $300-$800 aus. I recently purchased one in excellent condition within this price range. Be real wary of what shopkeepers tell you. They'll offer you bupkus and then try and sell it for
heaps more than they paid. Try and sell it privately first.
Dave_G (Dave_G)
Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 9:18 pm:   

HELP !..I just picked up a Les Paul Recording copy-looks to be a '74-76 (Gibby Headstock, no serial number) The guitar is in FINE shape, no pitting or scratches, and the electronics look to be original (even the GIBSON logo Pickup looks like the original solder joint!)...The guitar sounds HORRIBLE ! I doubt that the electronics are working correctly-does anyone have a wireing diagram or a close up pict of the wiring of this guitar ? The fit and finish on this instrument denotes a well crafted effort, one would think that the tone etc would reflect the same level of craftmanship-I think its either wired incorrectly, or fried. One thing I noticed is that the Gibson pickup is wired directly to the small switches, while the top pickup is wired to the selector switch (like a les paul)..I'm so confused!!!!!! I have read a lot of great reviews on this guitar on the web, and I am hoping to get this thing right..Any help from the Collectors community is appreciated....

Harry (Harry)
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 2:47 am:   

Hi Dave!
First of all: your guitar is NOT a copy of a Gibson Les Paul Recording, but it's a Les Paul Professional. It has the model number 2372. But don't worry: everytime I see one of these it's always said to be a Recording, so you're not the only one making this mistake.
Wiring problem!!! It seems that your guitar sound horrible because some nitwit tried to fix up his guitar the wrong way and succeeded very well. Unfortunately I can't help you with a wiring diagram, but have you tried internet by searching on the topic: "guitar wiring"? Maybe there's a good guitar luthier/repairman in your neighbourhood?
Good luck!
Fox (Fox)
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 5:19 am:   

Hi Dave!
I might have wiring diagrams for LP Professional/Personal/Recording. I must check my archives.. Feel free to contact me!! foxposti@jippii.fi
Artsi a.k.a. fox
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 5:21 am:   

Hi Dave

I really like the look of your guitar. There is a book that may be useful. Here's the URL:


It's full of diagrams for Gibsons and Fenders etc. I have a copy at home and will check tonight to see if there is anything that may help get you started.

Dave_G (Dave_G)
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 9:25 pm:   

Six..Thanks for the scan !
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 6:19 am:   

No problem. Was it any use or is the Ibanez very different?
Jaypee (Jaypee)
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 5:26 pm:   

hi Dave, i recently adquired a les paul lawsuit era but i just can´t figure out the year it was made. everithing seems to be original. It has no serial number so i assume it is a pre 75 an looks just like early jimmy page lespauls. Two s&0, the neck one silverplattered and the bridge one, white with squared screws (?) it is a flame top bolt-on with a sandwich mahogany body and the bridge has white plastic pieces, wich i hate. the guitar sounds and plays great ans as i told you, i don´t know the model or the year this guitar was mae. any ideas?
Harry (Harry)
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:12 am:   

Hi Jaypee
Please have a look on our homepage: http://www.ibanez-vintage-page.com
Have a look at various catalogue-scans. I think you have the 2351 M. It's featured in the 1973 catalogue.
Kind greetz,
Username: Muzz

Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 8:36 am:   

Hi - did anyone ever get the wiring diagram fr this model??? I am DESPERATE for one if anyone has a copy. Thanks in advance


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