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Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 4:48 pm:   


I recently bought a LP 2351M (Flamed Brown Sunburst) for $275 including hard-case. The guitar is in very good condition, only the pu-switch knob is missing. It has the well known 'half-white' pick up at the bridge and no serial-number, all original parts. Which years where these made?

Thanks, Musash
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 3:14 am:   

Hi Musash
Congratulations! Was this the guitar that was offered in the Dutch auction-site "Marktplaats"?
I persume this one has a bolt-on neck? The lack of a serial number indicates that the guitar was made before mid-'75. If the stop tailpiece is not "hooked" in the two big bolts, but these bolts go THROUGH the tailpiece you've got a really old one, from between '69 and '71. But these old ones did have chrome MAXON pickups, and yours has already at least one zebra-style pup.
So I'd guess your guitar is from between '72 and mid '75.
Greetz, Harry
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 4:13 pm:   


No, it is the guitar that was on that other Dutch veilingsite :-). The tailpiece is hooked, and it has the open book headstock. So, I guess it is like you say, between '72 and '75. What pick-ups were used you think?
Grtz, Musash
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 5:39 am:   

Hi Musash
Most likely your pickups are Super 70's. They become more and more respected and populair amongst guitarists and no wonder: they sound great! Greetz,
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:41 am:   

I shure would like to find a 2351 with crappy MAXXONS on it. It would be a good destination for my two original Gibson minihumbuckers.
I'm still waiting for the right piece of wood at a reasonable price.
Has anybody got a good piece of 2351 wood for sale with good frets and that sounds crap because of the PUs?
It would be a nice project for me, and what can be wrong about replacing a MAXXON? With these pickups I can create a great player instead of a wall hanger.
My hands are already itching when I read the name MAXXON!


Ginger Ale
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:56 am:   

What I mean is especially the 2351DX of course!

Finding destinations for my classic '57 and classic '57 Plus pickups is never a problem, but in Ibanez LP replicas with MAXXONS they would make the biggest difference but an older Epiphone Sheraton II would also be a good make-over candidate, because the older ones have good necks and lousy pickups too.


Ginger Ale
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:41 am:   

I have two 2350 with the Maxon single-coil-in-a-humbucker-casing which sound remarkably good. Especially at living room levels. All the others are not too good indeed. My 2351dx sound a bit "cheap" (thanks Harry for learning me that description)

Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 6:02 pm:   

I have a Sakai Telecaster Thinline with a Maxxon Fender humbucker imitation in neck position and an original Fender Tele single coil replacement in the bridge. If I measure the resistance of the humbucker, I measure about 125 KOhm.
Then I have the same humbucker in the neck position of a Kasuga Telecaster Custom 1973 (also combined with an after market single coil in the bridge, and there I measured about 575 KOhm for the HB.
Believe me, it's unstable crap. And if you combine it with a good single coil in one guitar, it's very difficult to mix the two PUs.
It becomes everything or nothing.
I left the Sakai as it is, but the Kasuga's MAXXON had to go! 575 KOhm, that's about 70 times a normal humbucker resistance!
With a more recent second hand Japanese PAF imitation it sounds superb. I think it came out of an Aria Pro II jazz guitar. The gold was so bad that it looks all chrome now.

But what you described as cheap is the ideal project guitar for a double Gibson tranplant.
Nothing to loose! I can always keep the originals in the case for the purists. But such a beautiful piece of wood deserves better PUs, and so do my ears.


Ginger Ale

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