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Dhine (Dhine)
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   

I have a '75 Ibanez Flying V with a medallion on it. It looks to be a copy of a '71 Gibson Medallion V, but there's no mention of the guitar in any of the catalogues I've come across. Does anyone have any info on it? The Medallion is from Ibanez and does not appear to be added. I have seen a few others here and there. I believe KK Downing of Judas Priest is actually playing one in the 'Breaking the Law' Video. Obscure, I know, but I caught it on VH1 Classic the other day. Any info would be much appreciated. THANKS! DH
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:38 am:   

Hello DH,

Hmmm. A picture would be useful. Can you indulge us more please?


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Munch (Munch)
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 4:27 pm:   

Here's a pic of the medallion equipped Rocket Roll. Pic has been hijacked from Chris's thread on Rocket Rolls.

Medallion Rocket Roll

Cheers,

Mark
Dhine (Dhine)
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 5:54 pm:   

It's a bolt on neck, just says 'made in japan', no serial #, probably made in '74, purchased in '75. The other one I've seen in person has the same specs. This one from Chris's thread, also seems to have the same specs.
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

Are they Super 60's or Super 70 pups? Super 60's had square pole pieces.


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Dhine (Dhine)
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 1:57 pm:   

Super 70's.
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 6:37 am:   

Well that's got to be worth hanging on to.

Does anyone know if they made any fixed neck "V'S" from the 70's apart from the Gibson Korina 58' copy?

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Harry (Harry)
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 7:44 am:   

Hi Six!

Yep: Ibanez made the Mahogany (....) '67 version of the flying V with bolt-on necks AND with set necks. Model number for the bolt-on was 2387 and the model number for the set neck was 2387 DX. As far as I know the bolt-on has been in production from 1970 until (most likely) the end of the copy-era in 1978 (actually: the last listing we found was in a 1977 price list). The set neck version was in production from 1971 until (also most likely, because of the same reason) 1978 .
The "korina" '58 V had -as you know- the model number 2387 CT.
Cheers,
Harry
Munch (Munch)
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 5:21 pm:   

Hi Six,

Yes, my Rocket Roll is a 2387DX with a set neck. It is all original with OHSC. It is a beautiful guitar.

Here's a picture!

Rocket Roll

Cheers,

Mark
Dhine (Dhine)
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:52 pm:   

The PUPS actually are humbuckers, one of each pair has square poles, the other has round poles. So are they Super 60's or Super 70's?
Dhine (Dhine)
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:54 pm:   

The more I look into this guitar the more things change. I originally thought it was a '74, but look into the thinly stamped 'Made in Japan' on the neck plate, now I'm thinking it's between '70 and '73. Which would make sense if they were copying a '71 Gibson. Are those neck plate stamps pretty reliable when it comes to identifying a year?
Harry (Harry)
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 3:54 am:   

Hi Dhine

If "Made in Japan" is stamped in lightly then you can be pretty sure the V is from between 1970 and 1973. Hasy and I found out (by paying attention to other features on various guitars) that from 1973 on all "Made in Japan" stamps were heavyer and therefor much thicker. Did you look under the bottom plate of the pickups? Please do, next time you change strings. Maybe you'll find some clue stamped in there. If you have the pups with the square poles there might be "Maxon" on the bottom.
Maxon (sometimes Maxxon) was a Japanese company that made cheap guitar parts like bridges, tailpieces, pickups etc. These parts were used very often on all kind of copy guitars (Morris used these too).Maxon parts and pickups can be found on Ibanez guitars and basses from between 1970 and 1973. Unfortunately the quality is quite low. So if the sound of your V is unsatisfying you might change the pups, but keep them carefully. If you ever want to sell the guitar it's definitely a plus when you still have the originals.

Cheers,
Harry
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 8:20 am:   

Hi Mark

That V looks great. I've seen plenty examples of the 58' version but have never seen a 2387DX.

Sure would love to have a go on that some day.

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Dhine (Dhine)
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 10:36 am:   

Harry,
Thanks for the info. You are right on about the pups. They do have "maxon" stamped on them. I guess this puts the guitar between '70 and '73. Like I said earlier, if Ibanez jumped on the 'Medallion' it would probably have done so, in '71 or '72. I have seen one other like this guitar in NYC in person, there's the one pictured in this thread, there's mine, and I believe KK Downing is playing one in the 'Breaking The Law' video. Thanks for all your help so far!I'll keep diggin! DH

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