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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 5:41 pm:   

hi,
I know that a long time passed, since munch talked about an axstar-telecaster in another thread. As I understood, this guitar never made it to a catalouge and seems to be a little rare. searching the web, I only found 3 of em (2 in ibanez-register and one on a private homepage) but none that is like mine. It seems to have the same specifications, ecxept that my tele is painted in a translucent red with black binding around the body and the fretboard and also the whole fretboard is painted in red!! Is there anybody who knows a little more about this axe? how much were produced. The Serial-No. is H850318 (august 85) and here are the pics ibz-axstar-front1.jpg
ibz-axstar-body1.jpg
ibz-axstar-head.jpg

would be nice hearing from one of you
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 11:22 am:   

Stationc:

This is an extremely rare Axstar. This is only the second one I've seen. I'd love to see more pictures of it, if you have some.

Can you tell us how you acquired it? Probably, only the distributor could tell us more about this particular model. What country are you in?
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 4:52 pm:   

ok john, here we go, but sorry it is just a handy cam!!
ibz-axstar-ding1.jpg
ibz-axstar-headback2.jpg
ibz-axstar-pus3.jpg
ibz-axstar-input.jpg
ibz-axstar-potiy.jpg


this axstar has a few dings and two big dongs down to the wood as you can see on the pics. one at the input and one about 10 cm down at the cutaway. I am still missing the trem-arm, but the seller just forgot it. should be here tomorrow. the poties, made of brass, seemed to be black and are almoust gold now, cos this was and will be a players guitar. on the back of the headstock is still a sign from a small guitar-shop. I called this guy today and he told me that he knows this guitar very well. it belonged to the guitarist of his band, who played it for a long time. he just sold it to the guitar-shop when the band split and then they sold it to my seller a couple of years ago. so I am actually the third owner. he told me that this guitar was first sold mei roland meinel, the german ibanez-distributor and cost about 1.000,-- german Marks, wich is now a little more than 500,-- euros (about 610,-- us-dollars). he told me that it is a rare axe. he believes, that no more than 1000 teles have been made. and he told me that there must be a stratocaster-axstar!!??!!
john, the other axstar that you have seen, was it in the same color? have you got a hint for me, how to restore these 2 ugly dongs and have you got an idea what it is worth.
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 4:56 pm:   

me again,
sorry, I always forget to introduce myself. my name is Maggy and the username stationc should have been my password, so I do not know, if I should change it.

greets
MAGGY
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   

hi again,
the axstar ist complete! the seller sent me the trem arm!

but is there anybody, who can give me a little more info bout this git?

greets
maggy
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Arney
Username: Arney

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:58 am:   

Guys,

If Maggy were to take this guitar to an expert luthier and had it restored to original condition, since it is so rare, would it negatively affect its value or collectability?

If you owned this guitar would you have it restored or leave it as is? The argument could be made that it is best to keep the guitar as near mint as possible; or, its dings, dents, etc. give it character and it should be left as is.

As far as I am concerned I think it would depend on the guitar itself. For example, if I owned Stevie Ray Vaughn's old "number one" guitar, before its neck was destroyed, I would leave it as is because the guitar was famous due to its owner and due to the tons of character it possessed. This particular guitar, not being famous in its own right, I think I would have it restored to mint condition.

What do you guys think? I am curious as to your opinions.
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   

hi arney,
tks for trying to get the boys busy to help me find out, what I catched with this axstar. but nobody seems to know or seems to be interested in helping me. seems, they prefere talking about a simple guitarcase. I surely would have known a little more bout this one (by the way, there is nothing to restore, it is all original, just two dongs I can repair with a little color), but ok, I know it is rare and even more rare then that case, everybody is talking and discussing about. and probably more rare than 98 % of other ibanez-guitars like musician, artist, iceman, rocket rolls, and what else. tks anyway arney but I am really disappointed!
greets to u
maggy
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   

Hey Maggy,
Don't get upset.
I myself can not tell you anything about it. Not because I am not interested but because I do not know anything to tell you.
I know the guys around here are very helpful and if you do not get response on your postings that is more than likely not because nobody is interested.
Anybody can nagg about an old case but not anybody has something decent to tell about your axstar. Like you already know, they are quite rare. Please be a little patient. If someone has some info they will chime in.

Paul
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Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 1:04 pm:   

Maggy/Stationc ;)

Obviously, there has been much more discussion in the vintage forum than the vintage flight case you mentioned.

I can assure you that if someone on the forum had more knowledge to share about your rare guitar, that they would have spoken up. Could it simply be that no one knows anything about your guitar? Have you considered submitting pictures to the Ibanezregister?

My point being, that you should not be offended because no one stepped forward with information on your guitar. Chances are, no one has any more info than what you already know.

Take the neck off the guitar and see what's stamped/written in the neck pocket.
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Ibnzplyr
Username: Ibnzplyr

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:23 pm:   

Maggy: I believe you have one of the rarest guitars Ibanez ever made. Never in a catalog, and I've never seen one on ebay. Since you have one, YOU are the expert. I wouldn't fix the paint chips. Just leave that alone and enjoy playing and staring at it (or sell it to me!). Probably only someone who worked for Ibanez who might remember something about it could give you more information, like how many were made. A super wild guess would be that 25 or fewer were made, but who knows? I think that if there were more than 25, I would have seen at least one on ebay. I have three or four Axstars, but nothing like yours. Congratulations!!!!!!!
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 1:17 pm:   

hi ibanezplayer,
tks a lot to you and sorry to all the others for my behaviour here in that thread, but so many things went bad (lost job and, and, and...), that I lost my patiens for a while.
so, that changes everything. Now I am the axstar-expert!?!? so come on guys, ask me. I will tell you everything.... (just kidding).
do you mean just about 25 of this color or do you mean 25 in different colors? I am wondering that you did not see this on ebay. I shot it in german ebay 6 weeks ago and I have seen, two other tele-style in the web, but none with a painted fretboard. that is all I can say. BRENTM told me to have a look in the neckpocket, but there are new strings on it, so I will have a look on it later.
if yr interessted in buying this baby, contact me maggy-marquardt@t-online.de
greets and tks to you
maggy
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Ibnzplyr
Username: Ibnzplyr

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 3:17 pm:   

Maggie: How does it feel to be an Axstar expert?

This is just a wild guess, but I am guessing 25 or less total, regardless of color. But I am speaking from a US perspective. Maybe they sold these to Europe in higher numbers. But there can't be very many as the one in your possession was never in a catalogue.

I sent you email.

Scott
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Munch
Username: Munch

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 3:32 am:   

Hi Maggy,

Munch here. I am pleased you have such a beauty. I have seen a red Axstar Tele myself in Australia, but a very long time ago. I also (90% sure) saw a black one with red binding and dots!!

The one I mentioned in that earlier thread is still sitting in the same music shop, totally unloved. It is a creme colour with black headstock and rosewood fretboard.

What are you going to be playing on that red baby? Its gotta be some Ratt or early Crue!!!

Cheers,

Mark
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 4:40 pm:   

hi scott,
tks for all!

hi mark,

it is THE SWEET (Ballroom Blitz) that I am going to play with that red-hot-chilly-guitar and some other stuff like sammy hagar, deep purple and own stuff.

by the way, if this music-shop still has the creme-one axstar-tele, could you ask them for the price and if they would ship it to germany? or could you give me their mail-adress?

greets
maggy
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Munch
Username: Munch

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 1:29 am:   

Oh-Oh,

It sounds sounds like you got GAS bad!

I'll check out the deal and let you know.

You must look up a song called Hot Chilli Woman by Noiseworks. They are a band from New Zealand and that song flat out rocks. It would be a perfect song for that Hot Chilli guitar.

Cheers,

Mark
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 4:47 am:   

hi mark,

yep, I think I got GAS (what does GAS means?)
could you send me an mp3-file of that song from noiswork? never heard of em, but I am always interrested in new songs. getting bored listening to top 40 songs.

greets
maggy
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Munch
Username: Munch

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   

Hi Maggy,

GAS means Gear Aquisition Syndrome.

Cheers,

Mark
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Bigmike
Username: Bigmike

Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

A term originally coined by Walter Becker of Steely Dan fame (one funny guy, I know I have spent time with him, back in the day)...

This is a link to Steely Dan's website with a reprint of the article Walter wrote for Guitar Player magazine oh so many years ago...


http://www.steelydan.com/gas.html
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Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar

Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   

"Gear Acquisition Syndrome" is the general affliction. The more specific variety is "Guitar Acquisition Syndrome". Either can be referred to as simply G.A.S.

Steve
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:52 am:   

hi mark, hi steve,

I guess you hit the point. with me its not just guitar, ists the gear acquisition syndr. cos I try to get everything and everywhere. I got too many guitars (about 70), too many boxes, to many of everything but still not enough (got a deet to sell?)(lol).

and hi bikemike,

I red that walter becker thread. I agree absolutely, but whenever I decide to sell one or two of my guitars, I find some reason not to sell it. prices are too low at ebay at the moment, people have got no more money cos they were in vaccation, so wait til christmas-time. or this guitar looks better than the others, or feels better, or sounds better, or sounds just different, or, or, or, or....., never ending story. the only guitar I sold the last two month was my 1982 ibz-flying v rocket roll 2. it was sold for the buy it now price of 888,-- euros. it just lasted 4 hours and 5 minutes. the austrian guy who bought it said, he would have paid 1.100,-- euros for it. ok, hopefully the first step to get lose of that G.A.S.

tks to you all
maggy
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Munch
Username: Munch

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 6:11 pm:   

Hi Maggy,

I have sent you the MP3 - let me know if you like it.

I went back to the shop where that guitar has been sitting for the last 10 years and found that it was sold 2 weeks ago!!!

Unbelievable!!

Cheers,

Mark
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 6:08 pm:   

http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7356858348
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 4:02 pm:   

hi lespaul,

tks for that info, but my tele never made it to any catalog and the seller of this item is not sending it to germany. I will ask him once more.

greets
maggy
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Guidothepimp
Username: Guidothepimp

Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 3:54 am:   

very cool git
verrry cool...
i love the red
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   

Here's another one in Germany
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:24 pm:   

Lespaul:

Another what?
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 6:11 am:   

An axstar just like StationC's.

I put an ICW friendly link to ebay in my post.

Here the non friendly version:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/1985-Ibanez-Axtar-Tele-Duncan-PAF-no-Artist-Roadstar_W0QQitem Z7363314086QQcategoryZ46649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

What did you do to that friendly link John?

Paul
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 8:23 am:   

Lespaul:

You are having a terrible time with these URLs. I still have no idea why.

Here's the ICW friendly version of the ebay URL to this red Axstar:

http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7363314086
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 4:22 am:   

it is astonishing!
not knowing that they excist and in between a few weeks we have two of em.
but this one is not in original condition. it has two seymores in it and the seller do not have the original axstar-pus no more. but must be a good players-guitar! I wonder how she sounds....
...there it is again....GAS!!!!
greets
maggy
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Stationc
Username: Stationc

Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 7:16 pm:   

this rare bird is to sell!

offers to maggy-marquardt@t-online.de

greets
maggy
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Demonazzz
Username: Demonazzz

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 6:08 am:   

I have one of this great guitar black one with red binding :-))))
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Demonazzz
Username: Demonazzz

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 6:25 am:   

with not oryginal pickups (change to carvin).

http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/fe1a1c56530acb 3b.html
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 7:51 am:   

Demonazzz:

Very cool! The red/black bobbins looks perfect.
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Demonazzz
Username: Demonazzz

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 1:12 pm:   

here more pictures
www.demonazzz.fotosik.pl :-)

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