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Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 9:25 pm:   

The boy has the mad skills, what can I say..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QYU7SIDoR0&NR

Thought some folks in here might like to see this video... I didn't post it, but it's a cool clip.

I'll be at "The Cliff Show" on September 30th. Satriani and Vai are performing at the HoB on the Sunset Strip that day. If anyone on the forum is in the area, I'd love to meet up for a drink.

Peace
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 5:43 am:   

Granted, but I liked him more when he was with Frank Zappa. He was so overly copied these days by guys with a lot less skill. Those old Zappa LP's are worth a listen.

six
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Cmangeot
Username: Cmangeot

Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:40 am:   

If you ask me, he has taken a lot more cues from Satriani lately, especially the whammy pedal. There isnt anything spectacular on this clip. I have seen Vai play a lot more interesting things than this.
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Cmangeot
Username: Cmangeot

Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:00 pm:   

BUT..........Much like the Benson and Santana clip, They are famous and I am not. And that is what matters.
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Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 6:50 pm:   

With all respect. I don't really care that it's not spectacular, or that his playing was more accessible to your ears during Zappa.

I just thought it was an interesting improvisation and thought some of you would enjoy it.

Go ahead, bring up politics, or your opinion on floating bridges. I dare ya'.

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Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 8:48 pm:   

Sorry, I probably owe you both an apology. I was grumpy after work today.... but I feel much better after my bike ride and my sports energy drink (Corona).

Anyway... Six... I've heard some of his work with Zappa. Do you have any LP's you'd recommend? For some reason, the Valley Girl song comes to mind when I think of Vai and Zappa. Zappa has an immense body of work, and I've only scratched the surface of his 50 some odd albums.. Vai played with Zappa for only two years... which is relatively a short period of time.

Anyway, I really enjoy Vai. He's a great musician, a great performer, great producer, great all around guy, etc etc...

And I'm not sure where the "wah" pedal comment came from. His choice of notes certainly doesn't follow the bluesy style of his mentor (Satch). I think what I find interesting is his use of the volume pedal along with the whammy pedal and bar. "Whispering a Prayer" is a good example.
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 12:25 am:   

Hi Brent. No offence taken mate.

I would recommend all the Zappa era although yes, it was short lived. I think Warren Cuccurullo took over with Zappa after Vai left.

I liked Vai's first solo project that I believe came shortly after the Zappa era. I only have that album on cassette tape. It was given to me many years ago before Vai really took off but I still have a listen every now and then.

I respect Satch but he doesn't fire me up like other players do. Someone told me that Satch gave Vai lessons at some point. Is this true or were they winding me up?

six
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Bondscoll
Username: Bondscoll

Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 7:35 am:   

It is true that Vai studied with Satch.

I'll probably get slammed for this but one of my fav Vai albums is the 1st one he did with David Lee Roth with Billy Sheehan on bass (eat em & smile). Some really tasty guitar playing and even bluesy at times.

Some of the solo stuff though there are flashes of brilliance are just too out there for my taste.

I did have the pleasure of befriending Steve's guitar tech Thomas at a Boston G3 show several years ago. I got to hang out on stage all day prior to the show. I met Billy Sheehan, Dave Larue, John Petrucci, Mike Mangini and a few other players.

He showed me a custom built strat that had led's as fret dots, sustainer, built in wireless, steinberger trem and on & on. Petrucci even played it for a bit. It was pretty cool.

My son was about 12 at the time and had been playing a couple years. After changing strings on all of Steve's JEMs Thomas hooked us up with some used (real dna) strings and some picks.

It was cool to be up close with such big time talent.

Rick
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 7:14 pm:   

Try lisening to Zappa's "You Can't do that On Stage Anymore" Vol. 1 through 6. There are live pieces from the whole Zappa era but Steve is on every one of them. Also "you are What You Is" and a few others I can't remember at the moment. Steves website has his discography listed.
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Jimmys
Username: Jimmys

Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 7:07 am:   

Hey Brentm, I (and my two teenaged sons!) really enjoyed that clip. We love that sort of stuff. My sons wanted to know if I could play like that. I told them that off course I can, but just needed an hour or so more practice. Thanks heaps for posting the link.

I like a bunch of styles and really appreciate Vai's amazing talent. I had a copy of the "Elusive Light and Sound 1" compilation CD (I think that's what is is called) of Vai's film score work. Great CD if you haven't heard it. He played the solos in the movie Crossroads which are on the CD - very cool mix of blues classical and rock.
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 9:09 am:   

What about this clip where Vai and Macalpine "hook up"?

Steve Vai Down Deep into the pain live @ the Astoria

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