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Author Message   Xysma Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    I have a Fender Talon TA-V, which is an early Heartfield with the Fender name. It looks to be made by Ibanez. Two octave nech two color inlays, hum-single-hum, coil tap switch built into 5- way, a funky tone control.Floyd pro, Gotah tuners. Anybody know anything about it? It has the reverse inline headstock, other then that it looks like a RG, I believe.   Chris Dodge Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    No, Heartfield guitars were made by fender. Fender came out with these guitars after they saw Ibanez take off. I think it would be fair to say they are a ripoff of Ibanez. Just not made by them. I have played the Heartfield guitars and like them. They are pretty good quality guitars.   JAMES SHAFFER Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    yeah i saw one that looked EXACTLT like an rg550 only with a rosewood neck.i actually thought it was an ibanez   drasco Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    When they were Relatively new I saw one a store in Houston called Bateman music. Fender was offering limited endorsements if you bought one. You actually just paid invoice price for them and you had to send pictures to Fender. I remember the sales guy telling me that they were actually made at the same factory in Japan as Ibanez.   Renato Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    Mike Keanelley (Zappa, Vai) plays a metallic brown Heartfield on a tribute concert to Frank Zappa called "Zappa's Universe" (CD and VHS), he used it on "The Black Page", he's smokes thru one of Zappas' most amazing compositions. Heartfields are very good looking guitars and yes, built by Fender.   Mrs. Wolftone Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    Fender USA and Fender Japan designed the guitars, but felt that they were too radical looking for the Fender name. They contacted the Fuji Gen Gakki company (best known for making IBANEZ guitars) to build the Heartfield line.   sdace Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    Damn, Mrs. Wolftone beat me too it :) The Fuji plant makes TONS of guitars for all different manufacturers.   jsilva Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    That's exactly it. The Fuji Gen Gakki factory builds some of the the high end Ibanez guitars and they did build the Heartfield series for Fender. Fender did actually put their name on these guitars towards the end of production. This was probably a last effort to try and save the series. To get a point straight though; there MAY have been some type of collaboration between Fender and Ibanez with these guitars. The heel joint you see on the Talons, Elans, EXs and RRs are a design with a patend. Fender would not be able to used the patended design without permission. I believe the patend belongs to Ibanez but it may belong to Fuji. If the patend did indeed belong to Ibanez, then Ibanez must have given Fender permission to use it. Also, if you look at the Talon models, it's the one model with an exact body style as the Ibanez RG series of the time. BTW: The "funky" tone control is Fender's TBX. http://web.wt.net/~jsilva/hrtfld.html   Zeppelin Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:04 am:    Another reason for this misunderstanding is because Ibanez released a series of guitars under the name of Starfield. Some designs ended up in the Ibanez line "Talman" a couple of years later.

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