Guys I need an ID for This PGM

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Author Message   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:21 am:    I have a Paul Gilbert Ibanez, and it has his real signature on te back plate (it faded abit with time). and I need you guys to find out It's Manufacturing date, and what model is it exactly? It's an off-white color (white - with some yellow.. like Vanilla Ice cream color) with black F-hole paintings, One Volume, 5 way switch, Lisenced Floyd rose floating bridge - real good one.. Dimarzio Tone Zone on Bridge, JEM Single in the Middle and PAF pro on the neck position. the Fingerboard and neck are flamed maple, 24 frets, reversed headstock... the Logo says Ibanez and no more. People say they spotted Paul himself playing this very practicular axe.. I dunno about it. umm the S/N is: F305797. can anyone tell me Details about it? year of production, exact model.. etc.. thanks!   Ccs (Ccs) Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 2:45 pm:    From what I can find in the catalogs it doesn't add up but that never means anything.The serial # makes it a '93 but it wasn't in a catalog until '94.The only model in '94 was the PGM 500.The pickups match but it only came in Candy Apple Red and was a hardtail.In the '95 catalog they offer a white model with a Lo-TRS II trem(PGM30)but the pups are IBZ-INF's.   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 3:06 am:    Well, I few guitar experts told me that this guitar was originally owned by Paul Gilbert - before the PGM came into serial production, I also have a video of Paul playing this guitar, It says only Ibanez on the headstock. I wanted to know what's the value of this guitar. It also has Paul's signature on the backplate and a cercificate for the Autograph.   Ccs (Ccs) Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 8:49 am:    Being a prototype it's hard to put a value on it,it's a case of what someone would pay.As a referance a blue book value for a exc+ condition PGM30 is $525 and a PGM500 $585.Since yours is a proto mix of both those figures should rise some.   Johns (Johns) Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 9:51 am:    Megaman: The value of a prototype is generally more because of it's rarity. (But you have to be able to sustantiate the custom features were from the factory.) The buying market for such a guitar would be collectors of that make/type of guitar. The extra amount this pool of buyers would pay is not published in blue books or other pricing guides. The value of an artist-owned, autographed, prototype will likely increase when marketed to a group that appreciates/idolizes the artist. Try to find Paul Gilbert sites to see if there is any extra value in owning his personal items. Both of the above markets are fickle. Who and what's hot today, could be non-issues in the future. Thus the value of the item today is no reflection of it's future value.   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 12:02 pm:    Thanks dudes! I appreciate your help   Stevo (Stevo) Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 9:45 am:    Also if it has the reverse headstock looks like an PGM300, except for the Tone Zone in bridge position, Paul isn't playing too many tremolo equipped guitars these days, for the name on the headstock seems to me,looking in the catalogs I have,that is present only on his personal instruments till the PGM30, so if the headstock is reverse is very unlikely to be a proto since almost any of Paul's protos are regular headed and in 93 the PGM300 was a regular production guitar and still is everywhere except USA, but we don't know for shure, you know Paul's collection is quite elusive Stefano   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 1:31 am:    Yes Stevo, it has a reversed headstock.   Stevo (Stevo) Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 10:23 pm:    should be a PGM300, I've played two of them and they scream but still are very versatile instruments, I know they are made out of basswood but the wheight is impressive, I'll check with a friend of mine who own one, never heard a Paf Pro sound as good as in those guitars. Stefano   Cameron (Cameron) Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 9:21 pm:    I have a listing for the PGM300 WH in the 1996 Japanese catalouge which says, *Basswood body *1 piece maple neck (wizard) *Jumbo frets *Black Dot inlay *Lo-PRO EDGE trem system *Cosmo Black hardware *Dimarzio Paf Pro (neck) *Dimarzio FS-1 (middle) *Dimarzio Paf Pro (bridge) So, this guitar also appears in the 1993 USA catalouge with the same specs. No mention of a Tone Zone in the bridge ? mmmmmmmm Cameron   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 4:23 am:    `It sounds pretty close. I have the lo trs II I think - not a lo0-pro - thougyh I'm not sure.. the hardware isn't black - IT's actually a color I've never seen before.. something between gray and.. andd something... The bridge pickup is a tone zone. and It's not white... It's a vanilla ice-cream color... close to white - but has a light yellow shade.. never seen this color, except for a guitrar EXACTLY like this that Paul played in his Mr. Big years.   Cameron (Cameron) Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 5:41 am:    Megaman, you will find that if it has a LO-TRSII trem system,then it's made in Korea,as for the color, that would be the natural oil from the body discoloring the white finish, giving it a ice cream color appearance,I had a law suite model SG junior model go the same way.The hardware color is know by 2 names: Black Chrome or Cosmo Black which is still used on the PGM30 today.   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 1:07 pm:    no no - It's a japanese made one It says made in japan... and the finish s not discoloring. the headstock is in that same vanilla color. umm - It's very close to the Yngwie malmsteen strat color - just abit lighter. about the bridge - the lo trs or edge - i'm not sure. all i know that it's FUCKING awesome. it looks like the floys rose system - only that it sais that It's licensed.   Gitfiddle1 (Gitfiddle1) Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 2:18 pm:    Megaman, Looks like we're gonna need a photo to sort this one out. Is the hardware bright and shiny, or a soft satiny silver finish? Is the whammy bar a pop-in or threaded collar deal? The F3***** serial number is definitely a 1993 Japanese build. Cheers Steve   Cameron (Cameron) Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 5:00 am:    Good idea Steve, it's as bad as doing Ibanez spare parts over the phone. aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Cameron   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 6:02 am:    Steve.. whammy bar is pop-in. the hardware is not bright.. but it's shiny..   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 4:29 am:    how can I tell if I have a lo pro edge or a lo trs II?   Gitfiddle1 (Gitfiddle1) Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 11:43 am:    Lo TRS uses the threaded collar to mount the whammy. The Edge and LoPro Edge use the pop-in whammy. Cheers Steve   Megaman357 (Megaman357) Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 3:14 am:    oh.. cool! then I have the LoPo Edge. coz I don't have the collar for the whammy

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