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Writersf4011
Username: Writersf4011

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 12:13 am:   

After a fair amount of research here and elsewhere, I recently bought an AS-73 to join my collection of acoustics. I'm really impressed with the quality and sound so far, but after a couple of weeks, the set-up they did at the store isn't getting it. I have .011s on it and the setup was done with them strung up. At first I had just the tiniest, unobjectionable bit of string buzz on my G string. Now there;s quite a bit, especially on the low strings. Using a straight-edge make it obvious that there's a lot of relief in the neck. My theory is that they didn't touch the truss rod when they set it up, that it was originally set up with 8s or 9s at the factory, and that two weeks with 011s has caused the bowing. A - Does that make sense to anybody besides me? B - Short of ordering a book online, does anyone know a good link to good set-up info for this type of axe? Thanks, John
Joevocht
Username: Joevocht

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 1:15 am:   

I have the AF75F which came with 10's and a month ago I put 11's (Daddario) on it and didn't have to adjust the truss rod... no buzz at all...I'm thinking of trying 12's next but not sure of the neck will take them well, will let you know. Anyhow, Its possible a fret came loose a little so I would level the frets If the neck adjustment doesn't get rid of your buzz.
Funkle
Username: Funkle

Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 11:41 am:   

John, It is common for a neck to take time to settle in after adjustment, but if as you say, the relief has increased over time, the action should get higher, and any buzzes should go away. Is the neck twisting at all? It could be a loose fret. Try tapping on the frets in the vicinity of the buzz. The tap should be solid. If it sounds loose or it clicks, it could be loose. At any rate, you should take it back to the place that did the setup and have them take a look. Did they actually do a full set-up, or just change the strings?

-Sven
Writersf4011
Username: Writersf4011

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   

Thanks Sven and Joe,
I'm sure they did action and intonation, but I don't know if they touched the truss rod. From my experience with acoustics, I know that excessive relief can cause buzz, as opposed to eliminating it: as you fret in the low part of the bowed area (the bottom of the U-shape), the strings then have to clear a higher point to get to the bridge. If the 'U" is deep enough, they contact the higher frets. I may adjust the truss rod to near-straightness, and set it up myself from there. If I mess it up, it's off to a guitar tech I know. If he sees any serious problems, I'll return the guitar, but I'm sure it's OK -- it played really well at first.
Funkle
Username: Funkle

Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 12:52 pm:   

Actually, you'll get buzz at different points of the neck depending on the relief. Here's my method of adjustment:
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/16/12342.html?1126204596

If you still have problems after tweaking it yourself, it would probably benefit from a pro setup, including leveling, dressing and gluing down any loose frets.

-Sven

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