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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 7:05 pm:   

HEY, does anyone here have any real time info with any of the Benedetto pups a6 b6 or paf, what do you think of them , im thinking of replacing the neck pup on my 2355, ive heard about the gibbies and super 58s etc, so,... jazzz
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 3:41 am:   

What you have now, is the original Super 70, right?
So, your IBANEZ 2355m is still in all original condition. Value $1250.- (PLUS). Why would you invest $156.- and decrease the collectors value of you guitar? (We wouldn't want that to happen, would we?)
Your answer is: "For the sound", right?

Bob Benedetto is of course a top jazz guitar maker. Fender put him in their catalogue, like they did the late Jimmy d'Aquisto. So, it's a big name.
The name of his pickups is exclusively licensed to Seymour Duncan/ Baseline.
Do you think Bob is wiring coils all day? No, of course not. You would be buying a Seymour Duncan product according to his specs and with his name on it.

http://www.benedettopickups.com/products.htm

So, IF you are going to do this, you should pull out the whole harness through the f-hole and unsolder the pickup lead from the potmeter. DON'T CUT ANYTHING! You must always keep the Super 70 in the case (put it in a click bag), because the value will decrease if you lose it. And then we're talking at least $350.- Add the $156.- you spent and you have a LOSS of over $500.-

So, be careful, Jazzz!

Yesterday I found a webshop on eBay with a $40.000.- stock of pickups and FREE SHIPPING in the USA and only $10.- internationally as I understood (and they combine shippings for lower cost). They're called Sigler's

Ebay Item #110113652899


Ginger
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 1:19 pm:   

ginger, good point, i hadnt thought of what you mentioned, i think i will play the guitar some more and take more time before doing anything, or perhaps buy a similar jazz box to experiment with that is less collectable, cheers, jazz
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 1:19 pm:   

ginger, good point, i hadnt thought of what you mentioned, i think i will play the guitar some more and take more time before doing anything, or perhaps buy a similar jazz box to experiment with that is less collectable, cheers, jazz
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Sabeking
Username: Sabeking

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 4:14 pm:   

Jazz, what sound do you think you are missing? Something must be missing to want to change, right?

Stacey
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 7:29 pm:   

what im saying is , i dont think im that happy with the neck pup on my 2355, which is stock, so, i agree with Gingers comments, so, i may experiment around with some other jazz boxes before i do anything,
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Sabeking
Username: Sabeking

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 8:33 pm:   

Jazz, as you know, I bought a 78 FA510. It is a bit bigger than your 2355. For me, the lager body gave me the tone I was looking for. I think we both have the same pickup, so perhaps the big difference is body material and size.

I wish you had an opportunity to play my FA510 to see if it gives you what you are looking for...

Stacey
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 10:10 pm:   

Stacey, i think everyone has a special idea of what tone is to them, in my mind im thinking of a joe pass type of tone, ie gibby 175, so, im thinking the weak link with my 2355 may be the neck pick up, but Ginger makes a good point about replacing pick ups etc, about ten years ago i had an Ibanez large jazz box , kinda like an l5 blonde, i sold it .. so for now i think i may get some less expensive guitars to experiment with, I DIG YOUR NEW AXE, JAZZZZ
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 3:36 am:   

- What strings are you using on the 2355?
- Do you want your sound warmer, rounder, instead of bright?
Then you could try Thomastik Jazz Swing .011 or .012
There's also a .013 set but that's pretty heavy for the neck.
- But, if you want the sound brighter, you could try Thomastik Jazz Bebop.

I always used d'Addario Chromes, because they were available. As a matter of fact, the first set was a make-up gift from Joep Egmond after a bit of screw-up deal (a guitar with a broken neck pickup that was NOT entirely silent, so it seemed to work but it didn't. Since then I MEASURE all pickups before I buy a guitar).

BTW, before you buy new strings, did you measure the resistance of your pickups (with the multimeter on 20K and the volume pots on 10)? What were the results? Roughly between 7K and 9K your coils are allright (go buy the strings). If not, what does the meter say?

BTW, do you have flat or round pole pieces on those pickups?

Because, if you have MAXON pickups and NOT Super 70, they could have unusual resistance values. Wasn't your guitar a 1973? Then they could be Maxons...

And I've seen some strange values on them...

Ginger
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 7:38 pm:   

my 2355 has the tulip headstock but no serial number and no sticker inside. and is the ice tea burst, btw i dont care for flat wounds, and i think i have 11s on there now, i havent done any measuring or other specs on the pups etc, will report back later, jazzz
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 8:24 pm:   

Hmm, tulip headstocks on model 2355 started spring 1976 according to Smooth. So we're talking SUPER 70's.
What do you want with your sound?
Less of this... more of that...


Ginger
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:50 pm:   

yes i think my 2355 may be somewhat rare , maybe not, no sticker , no serial on headstock, anyway, the neck pick up dosnt give me that nice joe pass tone, thats what im talking about, hard to put into words, jaazzzz
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Blues
Username: Blues

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 4:17 pm:   

Jazz,
It's obivous you purchased the guitar to play

Sometimes guitars have weak pickups

Get another Super 70 or Seymour Duncan and replace it.

I used to own a 1974 Gibson ES175 that had a weak neck pickup. I replaced it with another Gibson humbucker.... end of problem!

BLUES

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