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Acetan
Username: Acetan

Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 12:41 am:   

Check it out. I'm not selling any of my Ibanezs any more.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1802666&mpre=ht tp%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D260040553451
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 5:43 am:   

Unbelievable Acetan,

I had seen it before and thought, it would never notch up $1,499.-, which is €1198.-

Although it's a very good guitar,
Russelw collected the following Ebay data for the AM50:

Model No. Description Year Price Condition
AM50 Artist Hollow 1984 605 8
AM50 Artist Hollow (AV) 1983 350 7
AM50 Artist Hollow (VB) 198x 548 8
AM50 Artist Hollow (TB) 198x 550 7
AM50 Artist Hollow (AV) 1983 615 9
AM50 Artist Hollow (TB) 1982 688 9
AM50 Artist Hollow (TB) 198x 535 9
AM50 Artist Hollow (AV) 198x 480 8
AM50 Artist Hollow (AV) 1983 630 9
AM50 Artist Hollow (AV) 1982 599 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 198x 677 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1982 650 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1984 550 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 671 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1980 570 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1984 600 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 198x 600 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 567 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1982 585 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 599 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 590 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1982 536 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 495 7
AM50 Artist Hollow 1982 649 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 198x 700 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1984 670 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1982 510 8
AM50 Artist Hollow 1984 765 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 710 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 620 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 198x 630 9
AM50 Artist Hollow 1983 586 8


This guitar is technically just as good as an AM205, but with less luxury.
(The AM205 has a mahogany neck, an ebony fretboard with MOP Abalone MOP block inlays, a burled mahogany top, a tortoise pickguard and gold hardware;
The AM50 has a 3ply maple neck, a rosewood fretboard with dot inlays, a laminated maple top, no pickguard and chrome hardware)

I have exactly the same guitar from 1983 with OHSC in MINT condition.
Not with any name or zip code some cousin Wolfgang Amadeus of the Adams Family engraved in the headstock: this is a HORROR DAMAGE!

Would you accept this? For 1,499.-???
I guess not...

But I totally agree on not selling any of our Ibanez guitars.

Wenn I see that people are willing to pay these amounts of money for them, I feel even happier that I already have them. And buying back a good one will become more an more difficult.

Let's pamper them, Ace!


Ginger
Artfield
Username: Artfield

Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 8:14 am:   

Well this is very interesting, as this proofs that for certain Ibanez Models people will pay the price even if it is ( compared to those priceguides) too high.
As i wrote in one of my previous posts if a Ibanez lover wants a certain model he will pay the price asked.

The other side of the coin is that , i'm trying to sell a AM205SE and it goes very very slow, even lowered the price twice. Maybe they aren't that popular at the moment.
As Acetan wrote its maybe better not to sell.....
Funkle
Username: Funkle

Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 11:27 am:   

Holy smokes!
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 6:15 pm:   

Well, Artfield, it's always dangerous to let potential buyers know:
- that you really want to sell;
- that you need money fast;
- that you are forced to sell;
- that you are prepared to accept a lower price than you originally had in mind.

But emphasize that:
- your guitar is very special in general;
- your guitar is very special to you;
- your guitar is worth every penny you're asking;
- the value of your guitar will only increase;
- you only are prepared to sell if you get a really good bid;

I think the best way to make this clear to your prospects is setting a reserve as high as YOU think it should bring in. The best message for a prospect after a too low bid is: RESERVE NOT MET

The best selling attitude is:
"TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT"

Don't give prospects the impression that they can take advantage of your private situation...
becaus the product you are offering has nothing to do with your situation.

It is what it is: a damn good vintage or nearly vintage guitar of the brand that is considered to be the rising star on the vintage market.

Your AM205 is the luxury Stagemaster and if someone wants it, he must pay the price you have in mind. And if the economy or the time of year is not good, you will not get the bid you had in mind. So what? That's what RESERVES are for!
Try it again, but some other time.

There will always more dollars than AM205s...


Ginger
Artfield
Username: Artfield

Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 7:59 pm:   

Thanks Gember , nice words....

i just came back from a gig and read your message ...and Ace words...actually i was trying to diminish my litte collection (the house is getting full) i sold my Ragtime Special at this Music FleaMarket in Germany.

Thats why i like this board, its always nice to have a second opinion...so i decided not too sell it....i have 3 AM's and they are all different and will keep it like that.

Thanks
Acetan
Username: Acetan

Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 9:08 pm:   

I am, no, was, selling almost all of my guitars because I can't play them any more but now, I'm keeping them until I need the money. I sold my AM50 last year because it sounded too trebly for my taste. My AM205 sounds much darker because of the mahogany and I like it much better. It is the one that will be buried with me. Artfield, keep the AM205 and don't sell it for less than top dollar, it will be ranked right up there with the AS200 some day.

Ace
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   

Well spoken, Ace.

Yes, the AM50 is a bit trebly. Maybe it's the maple. I don't know, but I'm keeping mine. It's my only Stagemaster.


Ginger
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 4:35 pm:   

Saltapaya is selling it after less than one month and taking at least a $200.- dollar loss!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ibanez-Artist-Am-50-Semihollow-Made-in-Japan_W0QQitemZ290049 469715QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33043QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Remarkable, very remarkable...


Ginger
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   

Maybe he would preferred my AM50 for the $1,500 he spent.
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 7:56 pm:   

At least I'm glad I have a minty one without cousin Wolfgang Amadeus' initials in it.


Ginger

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