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Author Message Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 8:13 am:    Just saw this one on Ebay. Description not very adequate, but a beautiful guitar. Look at the tailpiece and the spruce top. Same guitar as the Ibanez 2455. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1802666&mpre=ht tp%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D230060507490 Ginger Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 8:25 am:    It is a 2455. I had one a couple of years back. Great sounding guitar and much nicer overall than the 2355M that I owned at the same time. six Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 9:38 am:    Six, Was the nut wider than the 2355m's? And do you remember how the top was? Solid? Carved or pressed? Feedback problems? I still love my 2355m btw. It's mint and valuable, but it's not my best jazz guitar. My Aria L-1000 (aka PE-180) has the best neck and the same tailpiece as this 2455. Ginger Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 5:39 pm:    Yeah a bit wider. Think it was pressed. Can't remember. I'll send you a pic and you can post it if you like. six Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 6:26 pm:    It went for $1000.- That's much less than a minty Ibanez 2355m. So, here we see what the Ibanez brand name is worth. The better guitar goes for a lower price. Six, did you expect this to happen? Ginger Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 9:14 am:    No, you wouldn't think it could Ginger but it happens every day on ebay. Bargains are out there. Probably this time of year helps too. As Crimbo comes around people need more cash so may have to let things go. By the same token, most people are not in a position to 'buy' this time of year so thats good for someone with cash to spare. Moral. Save your pennies for Christmas time six Toosdedoos Username: Toosdedoos Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 6:58 pm:    Hi everybody This is my first post on this forum. Could you help me with a problem (or blessing?) of mine? It was me who won this guitar on eBay. I found this topic via google while trying to find more information about it. I know it's a bargain but for some reason I don't feel really good about my win. I didn't expect myself to win this guitar at all. This morning I was suprised to find an email in my inbox saying that I had won. Things that make me worry are the brandless headstock for example and the pictures taken, which is in my opinion a job not very well done. I miss pictures of the whole guitar and closeups on the string height of the fretboard. I don't really care about scratches and dents. I have my doubts about the overall quality too. Do you think this guitar has a neck just as nice as modern Ibanezes? If it does I'll certainly look forward to owning this instrument. I haven't played a lot of different guitars yet, though, and certainly are not experienced playing big jazz guitars, which is why this buy is scary for me as I don't know what to expect at all. Do you think I could sell the guitar for the same amount of money again, if the situation arises that I don't really like it? This question is especially aimed at gemberbier, as he seems to know a lot about these guitars and the Dutch scene, which is where I'm from and will be returning in the summer of 2007. Zou je me een beetje op weg kunnen helpen naar een goede beslissing? Right now I'm negotiating with the seller about canceling the whole transaction. Or would that be a stupid thing to do, regarding the good price I got? The seller will either sell the guitar to me or wants to charge me 130 dollars of advertisement and selling fees. Thank you so much for reading this all and please tell me what you think about the quality of this guitar and the best thing for me to do right now. Regards Maarten Slagter Joevocht Username: Joevocht Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 8:49 pm:    Wow! if I didn't already have 3 jazz guitars I would have jumped on to that one Martin. This 'Dutchman' from the USA used to have a guitar store and knows quality when he sees it. Anything that you are concerned with can easily be fixed (if its broke) but, if your a player who has yearned for a good jazz guitar at a very reasonable price- looks like you got it!! Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 8:55 pm:    Maarten, Geen zorgen... (€753,24 voor is niet te duur) Ik stuur je morgen wel een mailtje. Ginger Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 8:36 am:    He Maarten, volgens mij heb je een goede deal hoor tis een fijne gitaar zo te zien, anders kun je 'm daar waar je bent altijd laten afstellen...ze hebben daar in Californie zeer goede luthiers, Gemberbier zal je wel van goed advies voorzien. de gitaar is een beauty naar mijn mening.... groet patrick Toosdedoos Username: Toosdedoos Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 3:12 pm:    Heeey thanks guys! I'm feeling much better already. Goed om van jou te horen Patrick! Hoe gaat het met jou? Ik heb net je site even bekeken, dat ziet er goed uit! Als ik weer wat geld heb ga ik je nieuwe cd kopen. De gitaar is idd een beaut. Dit is alleen wel de laatste keer dat ik iets via eBay koop. Het hele gedoe over bij de wet verplicht zijn het item dat je hebt gewonnen te kopen vind ik eng... Naast het feit dat je het instrument niet eerst kunt uitproberen. Is het trouwens waar dat een seller op ebay een final value fee moet betalen aan eBay? Mijn seller zegt dat hij EN advertentiekosten EN final value fee betaalt voor een totaal van 130 (!!!) dollar die hij aan mij wil doorberekenen als ik de gitaar niet koop. Ik denk dat ik de gitaar dus wel moet kopen ik ga niet 130 dollar betalen voor gebakken lucht... Vinden jullie die 130 niet een beetje overdreven? Maarten Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 6:16 pm:    Hi Maarten i will post in english , this for the rules we have overhere...actually i'mn't an Ebay guy, honestly i only watch the sales and the prices and never bought overthere.So i can't really advice you what to do, but the guitar is cool, believe me. All the best in California. Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 10:57 pm:    Maarten, You've got mail. Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 1:23 pm:    Maarten and Pat, Take a loot at the Free Classifieds now. Still wondering whether you had a good deal or not? Ginger

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