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Author Message   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:57 pm:    I've slaved over my Ibanez for the last time. The ST-50 will be a standard tuning humbucker axe, and perhaps backup. My heart has been contented with a SE Soapbar II, all mahogany, tobacco sunburst. It really makes me wonder why the hell I ever parted with my McCarty Soapbar. Gonna start saving for that now. If you haven't played one of the SE's, you owe it to yourself to. They cannot be beat for the money.   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 2:34 am:    but, how much do the weigh? sound? im gonna check out the squier esprit, for my next axe, tell pray, jazzz   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 6:11 am:    PRS SE Soapbar II, that was exactly my thought when you started your P-90 modification: why doesn't he buy a PRS SE instead of changing a vintage axe? But I didn't want to temper your enthusiasm for "our" brand. I find your Phat Cat mod a beautiful job BTW. But if you want to sell the ST-50 as an original with its original V-2 pickups, there are still 2 things missing: 2 Super Grip (I) knobs... they're no fun buying, Nigel! Perhaps the wisest decision is indeed to keep it as a backup after all those investments you made. You have an unique and beautifully modified ST. But as I understand now, your PRS SE Soapbar sounds better than the Phat Cat, right? Wish you were in the neighbourhood, then I could HEAR the results of your mod, because it LOOKS GORGEOUS! I'm thinking what might cause the sound difference between your Phat Cat project and your PRS... Is it the neck wood (laminated maple) or the scale length, or, or, or... Selling or keeping? You had the advantage of an affordable good piece of wood. I wouldn't be to quick to throw that away. (But I'm in love with the looks of my ST). It is ideal to test all humbucker sized pickups. Ginger   Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 7:19 am:    Phatcats do well in (semi)hollows but not in solid tops IMNSHO. No P-90 tone at all in solids. In hollows however.......   Boymambo Username: Boymambo Registered: 5-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 5:26 pm:    I have a few PRS, really like them. In my SAS I have a set of Harmonic Design Z90s and a suhr single coil. Best humbucker replacement pickups I've found with McCarty's have been the Wolftone Legends and Bare Knuckle Emeralds.   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 5:29 pm:    I've been trying to get back to my McCarty's tone forever. What we need is a solid mahogany Studio with a mahogany neck and NO MAPLE ANYWHERE. The Studios, with medium hot (12K) alnico 5 humbuckers (PRS Dragon II's) are great sounding, at bedroom levels. Turn it up, and it's just too bright, even with 333K volumes + tones. I'm going to keep the modded ST for now as a backup, ONE HELL OF A BACKUP! Soapbar does sound better than the Phat Cat, and they are different (A5 vs. A2). "Wish you were in the neighbourhood, then I could HEAR the results of your mod, because it LOOKS GORGEOUS!" Hopefully, we'll tour Europe soon. "I'm thinking what might cause the sound difference between your Phat Cat project and your PRS... Is it the neck wood (laminated maple) or the scale length, or, or, or..." Neck wood, scale length, bridge (wrap around vs. brass tune-o-matic), pickups, and weight. The PRS is featherlight. "You had the advantage of an affordable good piece of wood. I wouldn't be to quick to throw that away. (But I'm in love with the looks of my ST). It is ideal to test all humbucker sized pickups." Yeah, watch out for those coverless cream antiquities. They look just like V-2's!! OMG. I must switch the A2 mags for the V2's aged A5's. Whoa...   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:49 am:    I HEARD the prs guitars are heavy, they weigh alot is this true, what can yu tell me about the se, tanks, jazzz   Fingersmcoy Username: Fingersmcoy Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 8:23 am:    Nobody can convince me that wood has "much "to do w/ guitar tone as much as the pickups do on an electric guitar.To be totally honest its all in your head.But i do say the guitar manufactures have done a pretty good job of brain washing most of you !!How many guitar manufactures have documented test results- showing that diffent types of wood will increase(over 50%) the tonal quality over another type of wood? You are lucky to see a 2% increase***** Im not talking Acoustic guitars- Im talking strickly electric.If you took a piece of plastic and molded it in the shape of a hollowbody guitar same weight(an exact copy) i would be very surprised if you would hear much difference in tone.I bet some of you would say over 50% hahahaha   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 8:42 am:    The PRS is very light, I'd say 6 lbs, but I don't have a scale. It's probably that light due to the wood being baked, thus reducing water weight. This improves resonance. Wood does play a big role in shaping tone, Fingersmcoy. Go try a PRS SE Soapbar II, then try one with the Maple cap. BIG DIFFERENCE even when sampled acoustically. The wood, scale, nut, bridge and strings generate the PRIMARY tone. The pickups and electronics work with that to generate the SECONDARY tone.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:47 am:    Is the PRS a USA made?   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:38 am:    Guys: As the conversation has moved completely away from Ibanez guitars, can you carry on this discussion of PRS to the Miscellaneous or Players Lounge section? JohnS SysOp   Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 3:30 pm:    Bumpetibump for NIGEL. Please read JohnS' last post. P@ul   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 3:56 pm:    Got it, thanks.   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 4:02 pm:    The PRS is Korean made. The pickups feel overwound, which I'm led to believe by the way it compresses notes. Lollar P90's will fix that for sure. Can't wait!   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 5:38 pm:    Nigel: Please, explain "It's probably that light due to the wood being baked, thus reducing water weight. This improves resonance." Does this make a guitar better (or worse)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_resonance Juha   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 7:31 pm:    This makes it better. Wet, heavy wood does not acoustically resonate as well as dryer wood. You ever tried to talk under water? Get the picture?   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 7:49 pm:    http://prsguitars.com/inside/tour.html   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 8:01 pm:    Hm, have you ever heard any decent manufacturer of wooden string instruments uses wood that is not dehumidified/dried? "Baking" only makes the process last less time and is used in factories for mass production. So, any wood used for factory made guitars is "baked". "talk under water" has nothing to do with resonance of string instruments (play guitar under water?). I recommend you read the Wikipedia articles above and follow the links to acoustics, wave motion etc. Juha   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 4:16 am:    Blub?   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 9:58 am:    I've had many chances to buy PRS. I finally took a double cut McCarty goldtop with p90's in a trade. Not a scratch on it. Beautiful axe. I was terrified of playing the thing risk chipping it so I sold it pronto. PRS - Personally I see them as a Yuppi's guitars. Nice guitars bought by solicitors/accountants/doctors who secretly keep them tucked under the bed in the spare room away from the wife. They treat themselves to a strum now and then ending in a hour long polishing session before going back in the case for another 6 months. Saying that, I tinkered with a very nice 1988 24 fret 10 top the other day that was scratched and chipped to buggery. Not for sale unfortunately. six   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:07 am:    Six~ PRS's with soapbars have always intrigued me. What did yours sound/play like?   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:59 pm:    Guys, I happen to own a nice PRS Single-Cut I've only played the guitar twice since I've owned her. She cuts through nicely and has guts and bite. BLUES   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:02 pm:    Blues~That is too sweet! McCarty's, Dragons or what pickups?   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 8:05 pm:    Sorry, I have no idea which pickups are in my Single-Cut. BLUES   Fingersmcoy Username: Fingersmcoy Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 9:03 am:    Tweet! Tweet! I see no birds.I will only buy a PRS w/ birds.I tawrt i saw a puddy tat,he must have ate da birds   Fingersmcoy Username: Fingersmcoy Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 9:10 am:    Six V Six never be afraid my son! Although u should have gave that PRS too me i like banging them around a bit, it improves the acoustics!! (excites the protons and electrons)   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 9:24 am:    Going to replace the pickups. Stockers compress the notes too much. Anyone got experience with Lollar's or Fralins?   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:13 am:    Lollar P90's are supposed to be the bee's knees! Florida's Jay Wolfe's Guitars has them installed in all of his custom Heritage P90-equipped models. Plus Lollar will work with you to get just the right pickup wind for your desired tone. Heard good things about Fralins also. Basically you can't go wrong with either maker.   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 7:30 pm:    Im thinking of looking into the McCarty model, does anyone have any insight into this as compared to custom 22 or single cut, ?? what can i expect to pay on the fleabay, tanks- jazzz   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 5:31 am:    About 2x your 2355 (not modified). Ginger   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 7:26 am:    Guitartim In answer to your question regarding the sound of the soapbars on that PRS. Well, it was okay but to be honest I'd rather have a Les Paul. six   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 1:22 pm:    im seeing some nice mccarties going for around $1400 , im thinking thats a good deal? jazz   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 6:20 pm:    The one from 1997 I saw on some dealer's website was $2275.- $1400.- sounds a lot better. At least the price does. Ginger   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 7:36 pm:    i saw a nice amber burst last week on the bay, around $1350, not too shabby. btw, im not buying a prs to think its going to sound just like a les paul, duh-- jazzz   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 6:41 pm:    Test/demonstration of PRS SE http://www.guitaretv.com/test-de-la-guitare-prs-se -singlecut-video-46.html   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 1:04 pm:    Just installed Lollar Vintage Wind "'56" P90's. Man, are they ever sweet!!!   Nigel Username: Nigel Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 1:07 pm:    PS: Clips to come. My luthier buddy just bought a NOS '67 Marshall JTM 45 (pre-super lead). We're going to make clips for Jason with that, the Zinky's, some super leads (variac, of course!!!) thru vintage Marshall cabs with greenbacks and such with some Royer 121 mics.   Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 1:14 pm:    Blues - I have the same guitar in natural (no birds, 10 top) and it has PRS #7 and #8 pickups in it. Very nice guitar!

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