Need help judging value on a '74 Gibs...

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Author Message   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 6:25 pm:    I'm looking at this guitar for purchase and I don't know much about Gibsons. I've had a couple Ibanez guitars and the people here have been extremely helpful so I'm asking for help at this site. The photo is very shotty and should have some better photos very soon. The owner told me that it has NO scratches, dents etc, that the electronics are very clean and that it has Bill Lawrence pick ups. Are these original? Ballpark value? Additional details to pay attention to? http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/sydsmomma24 /GibsonL6/gibsonL6.jpg   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 6:44 pm:    Mortatort,gibson L6s'are very underrated and because of this they sell for very low prices.They aren't great guitars in my opinion but if you like it go for it.How much does he want for it? The market value is approx $650-$1000 depending on cond.   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 6:47 pm:    I really think the Bill Lawrence pickups are suspect. it's possible he designed them but there couldn't be stock Bill Lawrence pups on a '74 Gibson.   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 6:54 pm:    He's starting out at $800. Any idea how I can determine if they ARE Bill Lawrence?   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 6:58 pm:    Or how to tell if they are original.   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 7:01 pm:    Take the pickups out of the guitar and look for a label on the bottom of the pups.   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:13 pm:    what would the value be if it turned out to be a midnight special and not a deluxe?   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:19 pm:    no that is defenetly a deluxe.midnight specials only came in natural and red with a maple fretboard.   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:20 pm:    Looks like the deluxe only came with a rosewood fingerboard. this one is maple. which makes it a midnight special   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:21 pm:    the pickups in that guitar are gibson super humbuckings and along with the 6 way rotary switch were designed by Bill Lawrence.   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:23 pm:    but this guitar is black!   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:25 pm:    his is what I'm looking at: http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/gibsonL6S.php   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:29 pm:    sorry i had an inacturate source.you have got a gibson L6s midnight special.let me know when you buy this guitar!   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:29 pm:    I sent the listing to your email. What do you think it's worth?   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:33 pm:    i'd give him $750 for it.   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:39 pm:    resale in a year or two?   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:43 pm:    you might get $600 in 2 years because like i said they are very underrated.   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:49 pm:    Thanks for your help -Kid! He's had it up for a while so he might drop the $$$. Wonder how it will sound through the '76 Fender Twin that I'll be picking up from the shop tomorrow.   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 8:52 pm:    you are welcome Mortatort.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 11:00 pm:    Kid, I your nutz..That guitar is NOT worth $700..its the low end model..bolt neck. If you sniff around long enough you should be able to find one of the original Customs L6s's with a set neck and the real Lawrence pups...(look for the white epoxy that completely covers the back of the pup). The earlier L6's are AMAZING guitars and the later ones (like the string thru with the plastic pups are kinda like a reissue and just not as good (IMHO)) I know that Bill L designed and spec'd the original guitar (the whole guitar not just the pups) but was very disappointed when Gibson made it look like just another LP copy (the original design was cosmetically quite different) as was part of the reason why he left Gibson. Don't listen to anyone regarding these guitars, you HAVE to play one the L^s CUSTOM is one of the most versitile and fun to play guitars I own (and I have a bunch of 'em)...   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 12:20 am:    Dave- I've done some more research and found that the midnight special is only bringing $350 tops. The seller is trying to get one over on me or somebody acting impulsively. I like the looks of the guitar. What would you say is the average price for the 3 L-6 models? Custom, Deluxe, and Midnight? And do you have one to sell?   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 12:25 am:    Also, would you mind putting up a photo of your Custom?   Ibanezkid Username: Ibanezkid Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 6:21 am:    sorry guys,they sell for $600 CANADIEN!Iforgot the exchange rate.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 8:30 am:    Mort, I'll hve to pull em out to shoot as I have a few of them (including a really sweet silverburst, red (re finish and a couple of naturals) heres an old crappy picture, front row is Ibanez-back row is Gibson.....sorry for the quality-I think I used a cell phone   Mortatort Username: Mortatort Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 5:19 pm:    I emailed the seller of the L-6 and provided the info that I found on distinguishing the 3 variations of L-6s. He said I was crazy and that I would NEVER find another one at that price!! Some people. Pity because it's a pretty guitar. Here's the link since I'm not interested in the guitar anymore. http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/msg/351368127.htm l

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