Recording electric guitar.

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Author Message Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Friday, September 09, 2005 - 1:11 pm:    I've been recording with a direct box, which sounds pretty terrible, even with speaker simulation. I'm about to make the jump to miking my speaker. What to you guys recommend? Here is an article: http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_recording_electric_guitar/ -Sven Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Friday, September 09, 2005 - 1:31 pm:    without reading the article I would say mic it. That is the best way to capture what you hear coming from the amp. Direct injection is ok for bass and but for guitar mics are the way to go. Or try both and spread it across 2 tracks then you get both sounds. Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Friday, September 09, 2005 - 2:14 pm:    Ineresting article, but I found doing live mixing of bands that cheap mics caprure the sound just as well as some of the expensive mics he mentions. Its all in the EQ. I use Sampson S11 or S12 when I mic a amp live and find it adequate. Also listening to playbacks of recorded live performances it sounded great. Roadartstar Username: Roadartstar Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 10:27 am:    shure sm57's are good the workhorse of the industry its all in the placement, i use a rhode nt1 for acoustics also the trademark 10 amp direct is not so bad as a direct box have fun and good luck Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 12:21 pm:    I didn't rule out placement when I mentioned eq. But I do find placing it close to the grill towards the edge of the cone gets the best speaker sound. The further away your mic gets the more room sound you get. I would rather get a good dry signal and deal with wetting it up later if desired. Sibly Username: Sibly Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 3:04 am:    And another tip thats often spoken is to record using small (v good quality) practice amps instead of your stack gear... this way you can really drive the little amp and it sounds more dynamic than turning a big amp down to level "0.0001" It makes sense of course, coz you're recording the sound to one little bit of oversensitive equipment, not playing it out to 20 000 undersensitive souls I'm yet to record from an amp personally, but have been recording for some years now and all i see on forums is "SM57" against the grill, so that seems a great place to start as the guys have mentioned. Or check out the AKG mics (you're in germany, right? They are great and a bit cheaper over here). I use a C2000B condensor for acoustics and vocals, but their dynamics should also be great. Have a blast! ;) Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 11:17 am:    I've seen a few of those tiny amps. You're right about the high volumes. A lot of people say with tube amps, it is actually the power amp stage, rather than the pre-amp stage that benefits from high gain. All those people using tube pre-amps with solid state power amps were missing the point. Scott Henderson has instructions for fashioning a speaker enclosure which is a sealed box with a speaker and a microphone in it. It lets very little sound out of the box. This way, you can get the desirable power tube clipping without your neighbors calling the police on you. -Sven Skybone Username: Skybone Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 7:42 am:    For my recording setup, I have an M-Audio Delta 44 sound card, which has a 4 in/out break out box with it. I'm running this into Cubase VST v5.0 (should upgrade, but I like it). For guitar, I use a Line6 PODxt, usually with either the HiWatt or Marshall models. I have also discovered that if I set my HotPlate to the dummy load, I can use the DI on the back of my JCM800 into the PODxt, set on No Amp, but with a speaker sim, and get a decent tone on "tape". The great thing about the 4 I/O card, I can direct the output to my HiFi for playback, and I can record 4 separate instruments at once. This means that I can record 2 guide guitar tracks along with 2 drum tracks from my Alesis SR16. I can then go on to overdub and edit to my hearts content. It works for me. Sibly Username: Sibly Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 8:52 am:    Yip, sounds a cool set up you have there skybone. I have a Hoontech card with 8 I/Os for recording multiple tracks at once, but more than anything else, coz i was fed up of pulling cables in and out all the time. And when i finally get some drum mics i'll really make use of all those inputs. I knew i would some day. ;) Skybone Username: Skybone Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 5:25 am:    Sibly, I'd love to have a set up like that one day. The M-Audio Delta1010 has 8 audio I/O's, and you can "daisy chain" as many of them as you have space/free PCI slots for. I'd love to have the ability to mic up my amp too, but even with the HotPlate, it's a little loud to mic up! Let alone getting a drum kit in there! Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 1:14 am:    My recording set-up is as follows: Terratec EWX 24/96 audio card (two ins & two outs) CakeWalk Home Studio 2004 XL Made2Fade 2-Ch mixer (very noisy but was given to me) Mesa/Boogie Studio Caliber DC-2 amp Sennheiser e804 microphone Boss TU-2 tuner is the only pedal I own, although there is a footswitch for the 'Boogie which is a two-channel amp. My amp has a recording out jack on the back and is connected to my mixer by way of a mono lead that splits to two RCA sockets. Another RCA phono lead joins that to the mixer. From the mixer to my soundcard also with RCA phono lead. I haven't had the need to mic up my amp because of the recording out feature. I must try recording the signal from the mic and the recording jack, it should give me a real wide sounding guitar. The amp has a speaker mute switch that applies a dummy speaker load when it's engaged. Two ins and outs are all I need, I can record unlimited audio tracks with my sequencer, which is probably a good thing because I tend to play and record the same lick a dozen or more times before I'm happy with it. It drives my wife insane... Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 7:08 am:    Bottom line is if you like the sound of a live amp then mic it, if you like using a line out then go for it. I've used both and have enjoyed both. There are a lot of ways do record the electric guitar with all the gadgets available today. Have fun! Sibly Username: Sibly Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:54 am:    Hear, hear. Or do what Travis (scottish band) do.... set up loads of combos and amps in many separate rooms, mic them all, record the track through all, then mix, match, add water and sweeten to taste to your heart's content during mixing

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