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Laaz
Username: Laaz

Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 2:01 pm:   

I'm speechless...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Custom-Shop-Aged-Korina-Explorer-o ne-of-a-kind-Electrric-Guitar?sku=517363
Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 03-2001
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 3:28 pm:   

Because??

Harry
Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 4:09 pm:   

$8,000 for a beat up but new guitar seems a like a lot to me.
Pitviper
Username: Pitviper

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 4:21 pm:   

Agreed...no frigg'n way.
Jchester
Username: Jchester

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 5:12 pm:   

At least 4 times what it's worth just to have them beat it up for ya?

Agreed...no frigg'n way.

btw... Where can I get a job, beating up guitars for $6,000.00+ a copy?

JC
Laaz
Username: Laaz

Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   

If I'm paying $8k for a guitar it sure better be pristine... Hell you can still find pretty mint 83 korinas for under $3k.
Funkle
Username: Funkle

Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:14 am:   

This whole 'relic' thing just escapes me. The thing that makes some of the real relics great, is that first of all, they were probably great to start with, and then they were made better by all those years of playing. And the wear and tear tells a story about the guitar and it's many players.

But making new 'aged' guitars really misses the whole point of it. I say any sucker willing to shell out $8000 for one of these deserves to get ripped off
Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 4:13 pm:   

Yeah Funk, I think most people agree with you on that one.

I did play (and almost purchased) one re-trash axe that I absolutely admired. It was the Gary Rossington 59 LP Standard that initially sold for ~$3K. The specs were exactly what I like in a LP and the tone and voicing is perfect. It was worth every penny IMNSHO.

BTW, thanks for your concerns expressed elsewhere out here...it's gonna be baby steps for a while but my fingers are actually pretty strong so hopefully they will help lead the way.
Garyelcrrt
Username: Garyelcrrt

Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 6:51 pm:   

*I* am a relic. I am proud of my patched up, reconditioned body. I earned every one of my scars, but I don't want my son to wind up like me. Why would I want a guitar that's deliberately beat up? It would be like beating him up with a hammer just to make him look more like me.
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 8:08 pm:   

It's a strange thing. Most people in the market for a vintage guitar want their new baby to be as near mint as possible. The price offered is usually direct related to the condition of the guitar.
For new guitars made look old and ugly you have to shell out more cash than for the same guitar in mint condition.

As a collector I wonder what these reliced things will do value-wise in 15-20 years, compared to the unreliced ones. I am betting on the mint ones.....

As a player I just want to pay less for a guitar I like. If a beater is cheaper, the beater wins. If the well cared for beauty is cheaper since it is not reliced, the beauty wins.

YMMV,

Paul
Pitviper
Username: Pitviper

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:03 pm:   

I think it's all about image..people who buy these relics want the look.,and you pay dearly for it, if you want it straight away.

I would kinda equate it to buying old broke-in shoes or gloves, at a premium...but the trouble is, they don't always fit since you didn't break'em in yourself.
Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 03-2001
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:17 am:   

Uuuuhhhh....

Isn't it a bit of a "fashion" thing?
Some people like the looks of a beaten up guitar to give the expression of having an old, experienced instrument....
Don't we all by stone-washed jeans for the same reason?

Harry
Phatphred
Username: Phatphred

Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 5:40 am:   

I never did go much on appearances - take a look at my ex but I think these guys have a problem if they want to give the punters (I suspect that's Britmusospeak - it means the paying gig-goer)the impression that the scars were actually earned out there on the road in real-life situations. How well I remember the sorely-missed Rory Gallagher playing the Marquee in Wardour St, Soho on his beat-up strat with, it seemed, more paint off than on. That was a guitar that had truly been "played in". It could really tell stories and did. You don't put that into a guitar by distressing it, you just cause distress.

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