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Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 10:42 am:   

Well, I thought it'd never happen to me, but I had one of my aucitons pulled for the words "Les Paul". My Ibanez 2342 is up for sale and was doing well. Anyway, I got 10 emails for the same auction (talk about spam!) saying that it was pulled.

Is it true that those words are protected by international copyright laws? I searched eBay and found a ton of guitars usign Les Paul for-sale that were not Gibby/Epi.

Is it safe to assume that the words "Stratocaster' and the words "Les Paul" are protected to Fender and Gibson/Epiphone (respectively)?

What a pain.
Bigmike
Username: Bigmike

Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 3:36 pm:   

There are people that haunt eBay looking for stuff that irritates them - some people regularly seach music cds, concert dvds, guitar auctions LOOKING to report someone for what THEY feel is in anfringement on copyright or artist royalties. These people got nothing better to do. Relist is as G-style or LP Style and you probably can get by. Maybe just listing it with the model number will get you the buyers you REALLY want, Ibanez collectors.

It's not consistent and I know you feel slighted or cheated, but it's how it goes there. List it again, it'll sell. Did you list it here yet in the Free Classifieds ?? You might turn it over faster than you realize.

Good luck
Fingersmcoy
Username: Fingersmcoy

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 6:24 pm:   

I can almost guarantee you that some jealous a-hole seller turned you into e-bay because e-bay pulled one of his, or her auctions at one time or another.I see the Les Paul/Fender name used all the time on e-bay,as part of the sellers description of their guitar(even though its not an original).Thats why i come to the conclusion that - someone turned you in- IMO!
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:26 pm:   

Just use the name Paul in your ad. Write that you got the guitar from your uncle Paul.

But perhaps this wasn't the reason.
Did it have a Gibson open book headstock?
If not, you shouldn't call it a lawsuit.
But you could call it a post-lawsuit.


Ginger
Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:47 pm:   

Thanks for the responses! I'm still not clear if "Les Paul" and "Stratocaster" are copyrighted. They might be.

Ya BigMike - I've seen many auctions disappear because eBay has been heavy handed. I suspect that the heavy hand helps with things like counterfeit merchandise, etc. But this is a little much.

Isn't it about time another auction site sprung up and became popular to dethrone eBay? With all the Paypal horror stories, rising fees, etc, you'd think that someone would swoop in to give them a run for their money.

Google??? Are you listening?
Fingersmcoy
Username: Fingersmcoy

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   

I think Craigs List was suppose to do just that? "dethrown"But to me ppl are afraid to meet- to complete the deal(you never really know who your meeting)I had nothing but a great experiences with C/L.But i agree we need an alternitive to e-bay,if for no other reason the fees are too high. After your done figuring on how much you made on a sale its no worth the effort I.M.O.The only ppl thats making a killing is e-bay.(Not that im against e-bay in any way i just think its hard to make a big proffit.e-bay knows this because its built into the system)
Jchester
Username: Jchester

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 1:23 am:   

Craigs List has some great info... but it doesn't have the GUI/"eye candy" that buyers LOVE, at eBay.

Let's face it... eBay is the '95 AOL' of buying & selling on the net, at this point.

If you want to appeal to "the masses"... they're IT.

It's gonna take something WAY better to knock them off their present pedestal.

Brent... Copyrighted or not... doesn't matter... You have to speak in "code" on the Bay.
Fingersmcoy
Username: Fingersmcoy

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 1:37 am:   

Chester i have to agree w/ you on apealing to the masses-maybe on the eye candy? I bought some good stuff on C/L Bought my Ibanez AS-80,Fender the Twinn Amp,and a few other goodies.Also another prob is i dont have Tom- Tom- Go and Google maps is not always the best thing to use to get to my destination.A lot of good stuff that catches my eye is more than 100miles away- most of the time.Thats where e-bay out performs C/L I.M.O.
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 9:14 am:   

I still heven't seen it in the classifieds here....

Paul
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 9:16 am:   

heven't=haven't
Brentm
Username: Brentm

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 3:29 pm:   

Sorry Les... I haven't had much luck with the classifieds here so I went straight to eBay with it. Nothing personal. I suspect that because there's no intermediary, that the classifieds poses a bit of a risk to people.


http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1802666&mpre=ht tp%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D130067755052

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