Under-rated/never-mentioned Guitarists

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Author Message   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 10:17 am:    I think at least once a year someone comes out with a top-ten guitarists list of some sort and... there are always striking omissions as far as I'm concerned. First of all, any "top-ten" "top-100" top-whatever" is just utterly ridiculous in the first place because each man's opinion is as worthless as the next's. You know, unless it's like Jimi Hendrix and David Gilmore that's actually doing the list, it's just flat out nonsense. However... maybe here on ICW we can give some of these never-mentioned-in top-ten-list guitar players some recognition. I'll mention a few guys I believe deserve more/some recognition. 1) BUDDY GUY. If you haven't listened, go out of your way and do so. This guy will basically kick the heck out of 99.9% of all axeman as far as I am concerned. Plus, he'll basically plug his axe into an amp and light it up without all the gizmo's and gadgetry which , to me, is a sign of true guitar playing. Buddy Guy is truly a God when it comes to guitar playing. 2) I don't think MICK RONSON ever gets the credit he deserves. 3) FRANK ZAPPA. Have you ever seriously listened to waht came out of his guitar. SERIOUSLY LISTEN. This guy is a true genius in many stretches of the word. His sheer playing ability, his arrangements. The guy is a GENIUS and I think that's inarguable. (Strings... there's your opening.) 4) GEORGE HARRISON. Particularly his solo releases and specifically his slide guitar playing. If you listen, it's a truly melodic and beautiful style. STYLE being the key word. Any monkey can pick up an axe and become at least proficient on it over time. To have your own recognizable STYLE of playing that is at once immediately recognizable and beautiful and technical at the same time is another animal all together. His Beatle days also included some quite tasty riffs that I think we just all take for granted. Keep in mind, he was plating those little tasty's at a time where not many others were. 5) DAVEY JOHNSTONE. Your boy Elton John's guitar player. Once again, taken for granted. But a true rock guitar player as far as I'm concerned. Great versatility, geat techniquee, great sound and tone. Always the appropriate performance of the song. Lots of great riffs. That said... I realize there are guys who are much more "technically" astut guitar players than these guys. But to me... take for instance EDDIE VAN HALEN, who always gets the recognition.... to me, he ain't a "guitar player." He's a technician PERIOD. You caN'T DENY eDDIE'S VIRTUOSITY AND HIS INCREDIBLE ABILITIES AND STYLE. You can't. But, to me , Mr. Van Halen wrecked rock and roll guitar from here to eternity. Once he came out, every 5 year old guitar player from there forward became Eddie Van Halen and I don't believe that type of "technique" is what rock and roll is all about. I'd take a slacker like Curt Kobain over Eddie Van Halen any day just because of the guts. The soul. How can you put Cobain's playing and Van Halen's in the same sentence? Well, I just did. Eddie is a technician, not a guitar player. AND... i WORSHIP eDDIE vAN hALEN. i RECOGNIZE WHAT HE DOES, WHO HE IS, AN INNOVATOR AND ALL OF IT. i DO. i JUST DON'T LIKE THE EFFECT HIS AWESOME ABILITIES HAD ON THE WORLD OF ROCK AND ROLL GUITAR. I'm not taking one single thing away from him, he deserves all the credit he gets and more. But so do other guys who never get mentioned. I'm sure you know a few more, so do I.   Tonedef Username: Tonedef Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 5:01 pm:    OK, I'll play, maybe I can think of some really obscure ones... 1) John Cipollina No one gets tone like John did. Check out Happy Trails if you wanna hear some real guitar. 2) Harvey Mandell Man could this guy play, some of his work with Canned Heat was jaw dropping. 3) Danny Kirwan The other half of Fleetwood Mac (I'd have picked PA Green, but he usually makes the lists). A lot of what you thought was Green playing is really Kirwan. Great blues player. 4) Tommy Bolin If this guy wouldn't have killed himself with dope, no telling what he could have done. Check his first solo album--it would still hold up if it were released tomorrow. 5) Earl Hooker Best blues guitarist no one ever heard of. Tonedef   Paul_a Username: Paul_a Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 6:12 pm:    Ollie Halsall   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 7:11 pm:    Bob I agree with a lot of your list. I am a huge Zappa fa.n and have been since I was 12 year old kid. I would like to also mention MICK TAYLOR. He is pretty good too. Harrison is one of my favorite slide players also. He really blossomed as a guitarist towards the end of the Beatles into his solo career.   Munch Username: Munch Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 8:12 pm:    Hey Tonedef, I was just listening to Rolling Stones Black and Blue last night. Harvey Mandell put in a great performance on Hand of Fate. A very undrated player who is inventive, melodic and ass kicking all at the same time is Rick Brewster of Aussie band The Angels (AKA Angel City in the US). Do yourelf a favour and track down some of their stuff. I cannot understand why The Angels never broke big in the US. Cheers, Mark   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 8:15 pm:    Awesome Slide Player there is no doubt if you can get to see him Sonny Landreth!!! Earl Slick Gary Moore Alan Holdsworth Larry Mitchell Luke! Steve Morse Lindsey Buckingham Andy Summers   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 8:43 pm:    Under-rated/ never mentioned? Most of them are quite famous! But who the h... is Luke??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNg09WYT48I&mode=re lated&search= ???? Ginger   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:38 am:    Frank Marino - no one shreds the pentatonics quite like him.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:45 am:    Ginger Luke - He's talking about my hero, Steve Lukather. Toto's guitar player and session muso to the rich and famous. six   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:20 am:    Gem... yes, alot of above mentioned guys are "known" but they never make the "lists"... that was my point. Keep in mind though... WE play guitar so we have better insight. The general public won't know more than 3 or 4 of the names above and that's because one was a Beatle and one was a Stone.   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:01 pm:    ID like to mention Mick Taylor again, check him out with John Mayalls BLUESBREAKES, and THE ROLLING STONES AND NOW SOLO, also the late , great, HENRY VESTINE formerly with the original Canned Heat, before Harvey Mandel, ps, Harvey once used one of my amps, when i worked at TNT ELECTRONICS in califonia, fyoi jazzzz,   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:17 pm:    Michel Cusson (Uzeb)   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 1:31 pm:    The king of acoustic guitar: Tommy Emmanuel   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:01 pm:    Most under-rated guitarist according to Jimi Hendrix...GUITAR SHORTY!!!!!!! http://www.guitarshorty.org/ I met Shorty last year at the Hayward Blues Festival (Calif) and WOW can this old man play. And he is quite a classy gentleman. He plays a G&L Legacy Special and still can rip. As a younger guy he used to do back flips off of his amps.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:29 pm:    Back flips! So that's where Nils Lofgren got that from and he's well underated too. Would also like to mention: Carlos Rios Mike Miller Allen Hinds Corrado Rustici Neal Schon While I think of them. six   Hackneyslim Username: Hackneyslim Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:49 pm:    Anyone remember Elliott Randall, played the solo on "Reelin' in the Years"? Also a session man for Paul Brady, among others. And can we just mention Steve Gaines, the Strat guy for Skynyrd on 'Street Survivors', died in the crash? Wow. Check out "I know a Little." Boo. Gee. h   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:57 pm:    A few more for the list: Tom Verlaine Elliot Easton Adrian Belew Leslie West Bob Mould Charlie Sexton   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:58 pm:    H, I always thought Gaines was the best slinger in that band!   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:06 pm:    Six~ Neal Schon is very well known and very highly regarded as Journey's 'center' now that Steve Perry is gone. Have you seen the new Gibson Neal Schon guitar? Wild looking Les Paul with sustainer p'up and Kahler.   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:14 pm:    You know what, here are some very underrated players.. John Pisano and Billy Bean.   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:00 pm:    Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES http://www.guitarshorty.org/ I use to visit Guitar Shorty at his home when he lived in Encino California. To me Guitar Shorty is one of those musicians who's recordings don't do him as much justice as he deserves! I'll never forget the day when I called G.S. on the phone and he played me some serious rhythm, chops over the phone. He blow me away with his rhythm playing! I sad to him... I'll be right over to get some of those licks! That's how much he blow me away! He is an awesome rhythm player. Now G.S. also plays some killer lead I might add. (According to G.S. Jimi Hendrix used to go watch G.S. play guitar.) I know first hand what this man is capable of doing on a guitar! An Amazing Player!!! Several years ago I took Guitar Shorty to meet the General Manager of G&L guitars so he could get an endorsement. All went well for the both of them! G.S. and G&L a perfect match for an awesome person and killer guitar player. BLUES   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:12 pm:    I happened to play a gig for a new years party and to my surprise, GUITAR SHORTY was the lead player on the gig, it was quite a scene, the funny thing is, the keyboard player, ( i wont mention his name) had a bad case of the hic-ups and couldnt play most of the gig, hee hee, ps, ive heard there is a video of that gig floating around somewhere,it was a trip to see G.S running around and doin flips, cheers, jazzz   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:08 pm:    Without sounding pretentious we should be able to place our names up with those underated/ never mentioned players. As players we have sweated for years and developed our own unique style of playing and sound. we have our own fan base of fans that encourage and push us to develop even more, just as we in turn push our guitar 'heroes'. Some years back a friend of mine was working at a small pub in London. As the pub was almost due to close and there were no patrons he took the opportunity to play some guitar on stage. Whilst playing a gentleman came in and asked if he could jam, my friend said yes and for a while they jammed. The gentleman left after a little while but not before turning around and saying you are a damn good guitarist and I wish i could play as good as you. One of the other bar staff went up to my friend and asked if he knew who he had just jammed with. My friend had no idea, however he was quickly told that it was none other than Eric Clapton. We are just as good as our heroes but limit ourselves in thinking that we will never be able to play like them. In fact we play as ourselves and are deserving of being given the same accolades as these fortunate few that have achieved a greater share of the spotlight. remeber that our heroes all aspired to be like someone at some stage and in their minds they are still striving to achieve that, just as we are.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:16 pm:    Davey Johnstone: Love Lies Bleeding - I love this song! Roger Fisher from early Heart. Brian May: Brighton Rock - not an underrated player, but I just can't get this song and his performance out of my head.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:48 am:    Silverstrings. So what was EC like. Great or, stoned? Tim. Can't say I've heard the Schon Lester but have seen some pics. Do you have the 'Escape' DVD from the Houston show in 81? The band were at their peak and man does it show in the performance. That in itself is outstanding but Schons guitar playing is totally spot on. Good tone too. Mind you, he was never lacking in any department really. six   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:31 am:    Silver... my main point was great guitarists who never make these "top-ten" lists of great guitarists. There's no way in heck any of us have a chance of making those "lists." I think there's a bunch of players out there that we aqctually hear quite often but they never get brought to mind when thinking of awesome players. Especially when those silly lists come out. There's thousands of "obscure" players out there who obviously won't get thought of but I was thinking more along the lines of guys who are pretty much in our face or have been around a while and just never get thought of. Robben Ford for instance. And Davey Johnstone is like a prime example of what I meant. You can hear him every single day, you almost do if you listen to the radio, but... his name NEVER comes up, meanwhile... he's an extraordinary player. P.S. - I taught Clapton everything he knows!   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:27 am:    Schon has a solo guitar instrumental cd available on Steve Vai's label I've been meaning to check out.   Craigjc Username: Craigjc Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:40 am:    +1 for Frank Marino Rory Gallagher Joe Bonamassa   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 2:28 pm:    What about all the rhythm/accompany guitarists? Many of them have helped the lead guitar players become stars and have been important for the sound of their bands. E.g. Muddy Waters had Jimmy Rogers. Sigh, I am old, only remember the oldies Juha   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:11 pm:    Six Clapton was very unassuming and quiet. Can't say for sure if he was stoned or drunk, but then again my mate was always out of it anyway. Bob Taught Clapton everything he knows!!!!!!!!???? You hold you age very well - at least you did not teach him to wear flouro orange fedex jumpsuits. Just think where he would be today if you had. in mourning today for the loss of Billy Thorpe. An institution here in Australia.   Petruz Username: Petruz Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:16 pm:    for those who are into jazz, www.jonathankreisberg.com listening is believing. p.   Tonedef Username: Tonedef Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:30 pm:    Thanks for the tip, Munch, I will try and locate some Angel City. And, I'll add to the list the best plus 60 showman I ever saw--Dick Dale, King of the Surf Guitar! Man, does he still get monster tone! Tonedef   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:00 pm:    Another Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_%22Guitar%22_W atson I won't even try to mention the number of musicians that were and still are influenced by JOHNNY GUITAR WATSON... the Godfather of Funk! I will mention guys like Steve Miller, Chris Cain, Sly Stone, Jimmie Vaughn and bands like TOWER OF POWER, also... Jimi Hendrix covered a song by Johnny called "Gangster of Love." One day Johnny and me met at G&L guitars in Fullerton California so he could meet with the general manager. That was a day I'll never forget. I got to see and hear Johnny play guitar up-front and personal. Johnny played some find licks on a G&L Legacey then he handed it to me. I played some Wes Montgomery licks and handed the guitar back to Johnny. He then played the same fine Wes Montgomery licks and my mouth droped to the floor. Recently I've played several gigs with one of Johnny's old bass players. Tommy Terry. Tommy played the Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland with Johnny and told me that every atrist on the bill at Montreux showed high regards for Johnny when he walked in the room. Artist like George Benson, Nancy Wilson, and Miles Davis. Tommy wonder why they all had such high regards for a blues artist appearing on a jazz gig. Answer: Because they all knew Johnny as a killer piano player. WOW! Johnny was an amazing piano player! On another note Johnny Guitar Watson also had some guitar licks that were simular to what I call the best of John Scofield in style. You can hear some great licks on Johnny's last recording: Bow Wow (1994) Johnny's another guitarist whose recording didn't or couldn't always capture his true talent, but they do do him justice! That's most of what I know about Johnny Guitar Watson. A very under-rated guitarist He was a REAL PLAYER! ...and is very much missed by all of us fans! http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Johnny%20Guitar%20Wat son.html BLUES   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 1:44 am:    He wasn't an ordinary blues musician. on many of his records I think that he's actually a funk musician with some jazzy and bluesy touches. I must add, an excellent rhythm player. Though no one is inventive as a rhythm guitarist as Nile Rogers is.   Munch Username: Munch Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 4:05 am:    Hey Tonedef, Amazon is probably the best place to get some of The Angels catalog if you're not in Australia. Their output over the 20 years+ varied a fair bit but here are some specific recommendations. For straight ahead rock akin to AC/DC but with melodic rather than bluesy lead playing go for the albums Face To Face (1978) and No Exit (1979). These two releases represent the essence of what The Angels are all about. To hear a band that is pushing themselves and stylistically reaching for something else go for Watch The Red (1982). To hear them try for success in the USA give Two Minute Warning (1984) a go. To hear them attempt a cross over from hard rock to pop (cue the keyboards but not in a bad '80's way) give Howling (1986) a spin. Finally to hear them stop F**ing around and get back to basics with an updated sound go for Beyond Salvation (1990). Whatever record you go for be prepared for some very fine hard rock tones, together with beautiful phrasing and note choice in the lead playing. Cheers, Mark   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 7:28 am:    I was hoping this thread might prompt folks to actively try to track down some of the guitar players mentioned and give them a listen... as well as just give them the credit they deserve. With all the players mentioned so far... I find myself saying... "yeah... that guy can play." I recognize about 95% of the names mentioned. They all deserve the mentions. What about.... MICK RONSON. Yes.   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 10:21 am:    Blues~ Great anecdotes about truly great and under-rated guitarists! Hey, as a kid I once shared the stage with Johnny Guitar Watson way back in the day, down in LA. Yes, he blew me off the stage with his funkified playing and amazing showmanship. Ahh, to be young again.   Tonedef Username: Tonedef Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 8:00 pm:    Thanks Munch for the details, that will save me from buying a dud! And Bob-Z, you doubled-dipped on Mick, he was in your first list...but you are right, I am also a big fan. Tonedef   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 8:20 pm:    It would be easier to just name the one's that are worshipped. Rick Derringer Howard Leese Neil Geraldo James (Honeyman) Scott Buxton (Alice Cooper) Michael Gurley (DaDa) Billy Duffy (the Cult) Steve Stevens Roland Orzabal (Tears for Fears) Productions reminecnt of modern Beatles These are all names that keep popping up as I'm driving pondering the thought of underrated!!!!   Jchester Username: Jchester Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 12:54 am:    Bobz, my man... you've done it again! My faves (admittedly rock biased): -Technique & versitility: Steve Howe -Plugging directly into his heart: Eric Clapton -Best rhythm guitarist (with NO LEAD): Pete Townshend -Pure, consistant musicality: George Harrison -Best melodic 'hooks': Tom Scholz -Musical counterpoints: Martin Barre -Wild card???: Prince (at the Harrison tribute - blew me away!) -ALL of the above: Steve Lukather ...just my opinions... your milage may vary.   Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:19 am:    The ANGELS????? C'mon Munch how about a few of the better Aussie guitarists. As Harry pointed out, there's not many better than Tommy Emmanuel. But here's a few more to keep in mind - John Butler (JBT) Billy Thorpe (the Aztecs) Ian Moss (Cold Chisel) probably the best pub rock sound you'll ever hear. Angus Young (AC/DC) Kevin Borich (kevin Borich express, Party Boys) great blues guitar work. Chris Cheney (Living End) Daniel Johns (Silverchair) And no one has even mentioned Neil Young.   Munch Username: Munch Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 3:58 am:    Snowjays, The thread was asking about under-appreciated or overlooked guitarists. I don't think any of the guys on your list are short the props/recognition they deserve, except maybe Borich. Cheers, Munch   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 7:40 am:    Yeah... Munch has the idea. But hey... what the heck.   Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 3:24 am:    True, but most of these guys are appreciated more as vocalists than as guitarists don't you think? How about these fellas; Brett Garsed Simon Binks   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 7:41 am:    Vocalists? Huh? Nah. I'd so "no" to that. I wouldn't have even thought that in a million years if you didn't say that.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 7:24 am:    Prince or.... the artist formerly known as an idiot... can actually lay down a lick or two.   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 7:03 pm:    ... and he has pretty darn cool guitars with some very neat colors. I heard that he has a cloud AND a symbol with about 5 different colors each and that includes the fretboard. They look beautiful.. but it just proves that all you need is a good neck and a nice chunk of wood with neat pickups, no matter the shape. I'm talking distortion here. I wonder how that toilet seat sounds like.. http://www.bunnybass.com/e-zine/amusing/amusingbas s41.shtml   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 7:43 pm:    Tristan~ I'm no authority, but I hear those toilet seat guitars sound like crap. By the way, what is that lurking under the pickup! Eeeeewwwww!   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 7:33 am:    What's all this about toilet seats?   Shel Username: Shel Registered: 3-2003 Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 12:47 pm:    Mick Taylor--listen to any Stones concert bootleg from the 1971-1973 era, and you will be surprised at how substantially he added to the sound of the band. His licks and solos are so inventive and jaw-droppingly beautiful and change from recording to recording. They all played better because of him and I humbly suggest that he helped make them the best live rock band ever, during those few years.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 1:41 pm:    Shel, if you look above, the Mickster is mentioned several times (I believe) but what the heck... he does deserve several mentions.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 6:42 pm:    Re: Mick Taylor. There is a thread about him running over at the Les Paul Forum. six   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 8:11 pm:    I just found something from a never heard of player. A certain Tom Slusher, who's quite good if you ask me. http://www.noolmusic.com/blogs/YouTube_Music_Video s_60s_70s_-_Flight_of_the_Bumblebee_on_Guitar.shtm l Ginger   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 4:49 pm:    So...I do a search on this page for the word "Pass" and the only find was down here at the bottom for part of the word "Password" ...tsk, tsk, tsk boys. And, none of you are too young to absolve you of who I'm talkin' 'bout.   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 7:49 pm:    Strings, I don't know how you did your search on the word PASS but apparently you did not do it right. I did a search on the word PASS and received hits under the following topics: Hollow & Semi-Hollow Body Guitars: Information on the Joe Pass Signatureguitar Miscellaneous: Survey - What's in Your Collection? Information on Joe Pass Miscellaneous: Poll: who are your five favorite guitarists? Information on Joe Pass Miscellaneous: BEFORE IT WAS COOL,THE IBANEZ PAST IN PICTURES Information on Joe Pass Hollow & Semi-Hollow Body Guitars: Modified Joe Pass JP20 Jeff's Black Hole: Did Joe Pass have a lot of influence designing the JP-20? Hollow & Semi-Hollow Body Guitars: Joe Pass 20 So you see there is lots of good information here about the great guitarist JOE PASS and about the great Ibanez Joe Pass, model JP20. BLUES   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 7:43 am:    Blues, I think Strings was referring specifically to this thread. Not the site in general. And... yet... it's a perfect example of the reason for the thread. For some unknown reason, certain players just don't ever immediately come to mind when "top-ten" ists are being generated or just ... in general. It's weird. But that's why this thread is here... to at least think about it and give these guys some notice, in the hope that we'll track down something to listen to, get turned on to a "hardly-mentioned" great player.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 3:19 pm:    Blues...Bob's right...I don't data mine this site...this thread was a good sample, which is what I meant by "on this page." And, unless you authored any of the text strings you've listed above (again, I really don't...well, you know), well I'd guess you'd really not have much to say...so...well, you know ;   Guildibanez Username: Guildibanez Registered: 5-2005 Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:17 pm:    Tommy Bolin +1 (super wiz kid) Uli Jon Roth (Ulrich Roth in 70's Scopions) Michael Hedges (acoustic wildcat) Dave Murray (Maiden) Phil Keaggy Roy Clark John Denver - that guy could play some serious acoustic 12 string!! Pat Travers & Pat Thrall Buck Dharma (BOC) Alex DeGrassi   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 11:13 pm:    btw Blues...I take it you're a Pass fan...yes? Very few have that internal drummer...   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 11:30 am:    Some more: Jerry Reed Roger Hodgson Arian Legg David Hildago Caesar Rosas Mick Jones Tevor Rabin Jimmy Herring (Aquarium Rescue Unit) Richie Kotzen Reeves Gabrels Alex Skolnick   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 10:53 pm:    Wagner/Hunter   Johnm Username: Johnm Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 5:35 am:    Michael Landau Eef Albers   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 5:58 am:    Mike Landau... definately one of my all time faves. I have all the Burning Water and Raging Honkie's albums plus a shed load of session stuff he done with all sorts of famous and not so famous names. Totally great tone. six   Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 7:23 am:    Les Paul   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 8:30 am:    haha! oh yeah! How on earth could we forget him?? I have many old JATP recordings from the 40's (Jazz at the Philharmonic) for those who don't know, these were the biggest allstar jazz concerts worldwide, even with major success in Japan.. Benny Carter, Roy Eldridge, Illinois Jacquet, Oscar Peterson, J.J. Johnson, Charlie Parker, Hawk.. Stan Getz, Lester Young.. Ella.. Ben Webster.. Gene Krupa.. so many greats. and ofcourse the real treat is Les Paul himself on guitar! These were some killer performances.. I love them. His later stuff with Mary Ford like "Bye Bye Blues", "Tiger Rag" and ofcourse "Lover" were amazing. Not to mention those two albums he made with Chet Atkins. Check this out while you're at it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4E8OrHAMa4 (he uses his "black box" if you're wondering..) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_717qnCBPw   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 8:33 am:    I'm sure he has the biggest endorsement that could ever be in the guitar world with Gibson, even other signature models are still called "LP name the artist", and yet there are such a few people that are aware of him.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 11:32 am:    Has anyone heard of a guy named Uka Telenin? Don't know if I'm spelling it right. I heard some material he did back in the mid '80's but can't find anything about him anywhere.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 12:42 pm:    Tube, I'm glad you mentioned Roy Clark. Homeboy Can PICK! At some point in this thread, I'd like to just compile all the names listed and have it in a list format of just the names in a row. It's amazing how many incredible guitarists have been indicated here, where I find myself saying, "yes... that dude can play." And yet... they're never on these "greatest guitar player" lists that come out every year and on top of that... even us guys who are more "guitar conscious" don't even think of these guys right away sometimes. Watch... more players will be added and I will find myself saying (again) ... yeah... why didn't I think of him right away. Ummmmm.... Robin Trower... was he mentioned? I saw Earl Slick above, that's a good one.   Jchester Username: Jchester Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 2:07 pm:    Bob... your mention of Roy Clark reminded me of another guy who should "just shut up & play" more often (along with GB). One night, many years ago, Johnny Carson had Glen Campbell on, as a guest. Seems Glen had a cold or sore throat or something & couldn't sing. So he comes out with a solid body Ovation 12-string electric & procedes to play 'The William Tell Overture' at about 1.5x tempo. He just blew me away! ...and pissed me off for not just PLAYING more often. I'd known about all of the session work he'd done in LA (with the Beach Boys, Bobby Darin, Ricky Nelson, Merle Haggard, The Monkees, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, The Association, Jan & Dean and The Mamas & the Papas), but I'd never heard anything like that before. He worked with Carol Kaye a lot too. Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrecking_Crew_%28 music%29   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 2:30 pm:    I saw a TV show that had Roy Clarke playing a somewhat Spanish/Flamenco piece on an Ovation. He was sitting on a stool on top of butte somewhere in the dessert. Really cool! I wonder if u-tube would have that footage?   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 2:36 pm:    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-245802994 1021948191 Check this out now!!!! Way Cool!!!!!!   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 9:16 am:    Yes, I was aware that Mr. Campbell knew his way around a fretboard, another guy who we normally wouldn't think of. Hecan rip and you wouldn't even know it. Rhinestone Cowboy .... my arse. Shut up and... play! And Roy Clark is truly a supreme player.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 3:10 pm:    Carol Kaye was mentioning that she and Campbell had worked together and that he was a good guitar player, but couldn't read the charts. So, she would help him learn what he needed.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 3:49 pm:    OK Pass is officailly in...thanks for that Scorch!! I've also seen Brian Setzer (Stray Cat leader) layout Dicky Betts on stage ;0|   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 4:14 pm:    You've never heard "The Flight of the Bumblebee" until you've heard Roy Clark's up tempo version on guitar! Glen Campbell once had his own TV show ("The Glen Campbell Good Time Hour" or something) and once had George Benson as a guest artist. George let him rip on "Affirmation" until I got mad at GB for just playing second guitar on his own tune. And Carol Kaye is on more records as a session guitarist AND bassit than almost any other female. Clark, Campbell and Kaye are all VERY well known guitarists, each with signature endorsed instruments at one time or another. I thought this thread was about little known guitarists? OK...I'll go and take a nap now.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 7:36 am:    Tim, most folks mentioned in this thread are "known" but.... we know them, not the general public, not the idiots that put together the "top guitarists" lists. And even though we know them.... as you can see.... we don't even think of them right away sometimes. If you don't believe me.... check the next "top guitar players" list and you won't see anybody above in there. Some magazine just came out with just such a list about a month ago. And, using Campbell as an example... and Prince as well, they are "known" but nobody thinks of them as "guitar players" as much as they just generically think of them as "personalities." It's the playing skill that gets over looked. ay? Yes.   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:49 am:    I always ignore magazine lists of so-called great guitarists. The surveys always seem to be completed by people too young or musically narrow-minded to offer any validity. Then again, maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 11:54 pm:    The lists are just opinions Bob...............................like yours! That's all there is with art. t'sit...   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 7:38 am:    I believe I stated my opinion on "lists" in the first post in this thread.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 9:44 am:    This thread has sparked a lot of thought. I've come to know of great guitarists that I've never heard of. That's moved me to investigate them, even checking out whether some are going to be in my area to go see them. Being introduced to new artists/ideas/products is very important. I find that's the beauty of a thread like this (or others that ask for opinions on the "best" amp, guitarist, acoustic, etc.). At various points in my life I didn't know who Frank Zappa, David Gilmour, Larry Carlton, Pat Metheny, George Benson, Jimmy Bruno, Steve Howe, Steve Hackett, Brad Paisley, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Paul Gilbert, etc., were. Sure, most of these guys would make somebody's "top/best list", but at the time I came to hear them they were unknown to me. Most on the list have changed my life, my guitar playing or just my looking at music in a different way. How did I get to know more about them? Sometimes it was a personal recommendation, but many times it was by reading about them in various mags and seeing them on the "lists". ***I'm going to put my SysOp hat on, now.*** Why has this thread digressed into debating the validity of "lists"? Why put one person's (or mag's) opinion of the "best" or "underrated" down? Here's a tip on human nature that eludes all of us, at times: You don't have to put another's opinion (or list) down to validate your own. When you do, the conversation always turns into defending ourselves and that inhibits the flow of really useful information. ***I'm taking my SysOp hat off, now.*** So, keep the names of those "lesser known" guitar players coming! I'm learning a lot.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:51 am:    Well put JohnS!!!   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:59 am:    Brad Whitford gets dwarfed by Joe Perry, but Brad can play. He is seldom thought of. Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top) he deserves a mention because the early ZZ stuff totally kicks butt and it's all guitar-oriented. ...and if you haven't listened to "Blue Jean Blues" in a while... you might wanna do that. "Dust My Broom" too.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:53 am:    No Bob...its the word "idiots" in you last post that sparked my definition...lighten up!   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:01 pm:    To take John's point a bit further: We are all doing a form of name dropping in this thread. Not a bad idea. But what would be a greater challenge to all of us is to try and write blurbs describing in detail the tone or timing or content or effects use or touch or...(well, I think you get my point) that best describes why it floats your boat.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:24 pm:    Strings... I think I just started another thread (before your latest post here) that may accomodate what you want... in a way. See "What's your favorite" in this "Miscellaneous" thread. It's slightly askew but yet I believe it can accomodate what you indicated. P.S. - I thought my first post in this thread would have eliminated any need for discussing lists at all. If you re-read it, I think you will agree. John was right... if we just stayed on topic... it was going pretty good. In any event... maybe you can have a look-see at that other thread Strings, there should be room (in a broad interpretation of the topic)... for what you indicate above. Just a suggestion. When I elaborated on my first post in that new thread, it actually covered a bit of what you mentioned so... like I said, there is room to broaden the topic or... you can just start a more specific thread?   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 7:11 pm:    thread ballons...cool Bob!   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 8:37 pm:    Yet another Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES http://www.chriscain.cc/index.html CHRIS CAIN In my opinion guitarist CHRIS CAIN displays a lot of influences in his playing but always comes across as pure Cain. You can hear guitar icons like B.B. King; Albert King; Herb Ellis; Johnny "Guitar" Watson; and Robben Ford in his playing but Chris has his own style of guitar playing. Be it jazzy blues / B.B. or Albert King style blues / Herbie Ellis style swing / funky blues or rockin blues, Chris Cain is one awesome guitar player and worth your getting several of his cd's. I'd like to recommend the following cd's by Chris Cain: _LIVE AT THE REP _CUTTIN' LOOSE _CAIN DOES KING _UNSCHEDULED FLIGHT BLUES   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 6:54 am:    Hey Blues! An excellent choice. I only discovered Chris Cain about a year ago. I heard 'Livin' on the Fault Line' and thought it was BB king but with more chords (if you know what I mean). I was totally blown away. six   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 6:46 pm:    Yet another Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES LUCKY PETERSON http://www.dreyfusrecords.com/discs_ns.php?a=50&l=0 Guitarist-organist-singer... Lucky Peterson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Peterson "Lucky Peterson is the most dangerous triple threat working in the blues. Nobody would refute his reputation as one of the preeminent performers of the modern era. A searing lead guitarist, fantastic organist, and first-rate vocalist, Lucky's many talents are truly mind-boggling..." A MUST SEE LIVE! BLUES   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 7:32 pm:    Lucky Peterson @ Verve Music Group http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/artist.aspx?aid=277 1 BLUES   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 7:35 am:    Nice album cover, this guy has got to rock!   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:15 am:    Grant Green   Emilio Username: Emilio Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:56 pm:    David Gilmore (not Gilmoure! from P.Floyd) CD's:Ritualism (2001) Unified Presence (2006) cheers emilio   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 6:36 pm:    Yet another Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES KIRK ELI FLETCHER http://www.fabulousthunderbirds.com/about.html?sub=kirk Make sure you listen to Kirk's song: Blues For Boo Boo.mp3 http://www.fabulousthunderbirds.com/pix/picGallery7030112.jpg "One part of the 2 guitar team in The Fabulous Thunderbirds!!! Music is my life as well as my little girl Elaysia. I love peace and quiet,and watching live concerts. Try to treat people with respect..." I recently caught session guitarist Michael Landau sittin in with Kirk Fletcher at a local Southern California venue called CAFE BOOGALLO in Hermosa Beach. I was very impressed by both Kirks and Michael's totally different approaches to the blues. If any of you get a chance it would be well worth it to see and hear KIRK ELI FLETCHER BLUES   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 8:30 pm:    Grant Green. ;)   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 6:52 pm:    Yet another Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES HANK GARLAND Born...Walter Louis Garland in Cowpens, South Carolina in 1930. Hank performed with the likes of: Elvis Presley, The Everly Brothers, Roy Orbison, Patsy Cline, and Jerry Lee Lewis. Hank Garland could play Country and Jazz guitar better than most anybody. In honor of two legandary guitarist, (Hank Garland and Billy Bird ), the Gibson guitar company produce the BIRDLAND archtop hollowbody guitar. Still today a great many guitarist do not know HANK GARLAND as a Jazz guitar Icon. During the 1970's Ibanez, Greco and Maya made some excellent copies of the Gibson Birdland guitar. http://www.hankgarland.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Garland HANK GARLAND Everyone wanted him. No one could control him... Giving much praise to Hank Garland for his guitar playing skill and music, George Benson credits Hank as a big musical influence. Produced by STEVE VAI http://www.crazy-themovie.com/ http://www.crazy-themovie.com/index.html I hope this movie comes out soon! BLUES   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 7:34 pm:    Hank Garland didn't have his share of the spotlight? He's being heard practically on every rockabilly record in the 50's. He was more sought after than Chet Atkins, Brent Mason or Arlen Roth in later years were.. Not to mention his "Jazz winds from a new direction" which is one of the best selling jazz guitar albums of all times. Nonetheless, a truly great artist.   Bruceswar Username: Bruceswar Registered: 5-2005 Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 7:53 pm:    I have not seen a mention of Alvin Lee or did I miss it?   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 11:10 pm:    OK ... depending on your circles, two unknown greats: Mark O'Conner, Tony Rice. But then again, you go to any ~ bluegrass festival and you'll be floored no matter how much you "shred."   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 11:21 pm:      Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 2:40 am:    But how can you call someone like Tony Rice undermentioned? He's one of the most well known bluegrass performers and acoustic flatpickers in the world..   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:13 am:    Strings: I second that! mk   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:14 am:    Gil Parris is amazing too. mk   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:36 am:    Django Reinhardt and Bireli Lagrene too!   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 11:26 am:    I have to say that all the guitarists that are mention lately are very good. Especially Bireli Lagrene, but does it fits the thread of "underrated undermentioned guitarists"? Bireli is the talk of the town..   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 4:35 pm:    Tristan: where are you from? EU? I'm just wondering if he's better known in Europe than in the States. My impression is that lots of people don't know about him. Maybe I just run with the wrong crowd. mk   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 4:39 pm:    Today everything is global (Germany)   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 6:55 pm:    Tristan...while your judging people's input, perhaps you could be comprehensive about it. So, tell us how well known Mark O'Conner is too...or do you not know of him which keeps you quite? I don't know many with Rice discs in their collection...so, I appeal.   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 11:34 pm:    I'm keeping quiet ;) I don't know a guitarist by that name but a violinist... I totally agree about what you said about bluegrass festivals. Jawdropping.   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 4:35 am:    Thinking about it, you're probably right, I might have had an overreaction. Thanks for letting me notice..   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 5:08 pm:    STEVE VAI is producing a MOVIE about... HANK GARLAND Produced by STEVE VAI http://www.crazy-themovie.com/ http://www.crazy-themovie.com/index.html BLUES   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 6:30 pm:    That's something I'd like to see. I've heard that Tony McAlpine is playing Wes Montgomery.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 1:03 am:    I'm pokin at ya Tristen...glad you know T Rice well. And you get 2 points for O'Conner, cuz he's an even more amazing fiddle player...but he's quite the guitarist...I was lucky enough to play with him at Denison Univ. Mouse-over the pic of young O'C above and see what the text displays. Best...   Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 1:40 am:    Mr Steve Vai at his best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydcp6z_qAnY Or, if you're a Joe Satriani fan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZiXZWOSqeE I take no resonsibility if you have a mouth full of coffee when viewing these videos.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:48 am:    Tristan, if you refer back to the first post in this thread, you will see something in regard to the fact that when people put together "Top Ten" or "Top 100" Lists of greatest guitar players, certain folks are ALWAYS, without fail, never mentioned on those lists. So, that may answer your question above. As guitar players, we're bound to be more aware of these players that get "overlooked/under-mentioned." But... I guarantee you that the "general public" is probably quite in the dark (specifically as to the playing capabilities) of most guys mentioned in this thread. For example... George Harrison probably couldn't be any more famous. And yet, that's not the point.... he is "over-looked" as a guitarist. He's a Beatle, but you never see him make a Top Guitar Player" list, and meanwhile, he played some great stuff, especially his slide work in latter years. That's an example, I think you get my point or... the point of the thread.   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 11:33 am:    In that case, I'm nominating Ernie Isley from the Isley brothers.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 12:58 pm:    Yep, good one.   Blues Username: Blues Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 7:27 pm:    Yet another Most under-rated guitarist according to... BLUES ELLIOTT RANDALL STEELY DAN'S premier guitarist http://www.elliott-randall.com/whatsnew.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Randall A favorite in clubs and frat houses, and a staple of classic-rock radio, Steely Dan's "Reelin' In The Years" has it all. There's the hooky intro (dig those chromatic pull-offs and hammer-ons that jump start the song), great lyrics and vocals, sing-along choruses, and tightly arranged, harmonized guitar interludes-courtesy of Denny Dias, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter; and New York session ace Elliott Randall. Best of all are Randall's fat, squawky solos. http://www.elliott-randall.com/rln/rln.htm BLUES   Fingersmcoy Username: Fingersmcoy Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 8:47 pm:    Prince, or the Artist formerly as Prince.The Black Crowes- Rich Robinson.   Fingersmcoy Username: Fingersmcoy Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 8:48 pm:    known *^   Ubetcha Username: Ubetcha Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 8:09 am:    I'll mention a few that will probably raise an eyebrow or two, but what the heck. Glen Campbell. I have an old (1965?) album of him playing the 12-string, and that boy could really pick. Harvey Reid. Have played a gig with Harvey, & he is as good as anyone I've ever seen or heard. Dan Crary. Another guy who makes me feel inadequate regularly. John Hammond. Just a great & underrated blues guitarist, IMO.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:28 pm:    I think Glen Campbell was mentioned above, so... there's some agreement there. And thanx for metioning Rich Robinson, he can definitely play.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 2:07 pm:    Joe Walsh. Did anyone mention Joe Walsh? If nobody did mention him, Joe is a prime example of a blazing guitar player who doesn't necessarily get thought of as often as he should when folks are mentioning great guitar players. Maybe someone mentioned him above but I didn't read through the whole thread to find out. I am seeing J.W. 2morrow night at a small theater in NY (Long Island) can't wait, it's always the best show. It's him a bass player, a drummer and that's it. Lots of fun. He's an amusing guy live in concert and man he can make that guitar do whatever he wants.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 4:31 pm:    And Roy Buchanan. I searched and didn't find his name in here.   Roland_g303 Username: Roland_g303 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 5:19 pm:    Mike Oldfield Steve Hackett Merle Travis Willie Porter Prince or O(+> (but he is Prince again) Andy Summers   Tbplayer Username: Tbplayer Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 6:51 pm:    how about : coco monotya walter trout ben lacy daryl steurmer charlie crowe (brooks & dunn) joe louis walker bernard allison these are off the top of my head.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:34 am:    Could you imagine if you could get all the guitar players listed in this thread on one stage at the same time! (Even the dead ones.) Obviously, the dead ones won't be able to play as well as they used to but... still... they should be there.   Lofapco Username: Lofapco Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:31 am:    Bob_Z... I would argue the dead ones are probably playing better than ever.... on the best instruments designed by the best luthiers, with the best singers and surrounding musicians, playing for the most appreciative audiances,. That is what I hope Heaven is all about!   Lofapco Username: Lofapco Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:36 am:    Bob_Z By the way....This is a great thread. It has brought back many old memories of players I long ago forgot about! Especially Tommy Bolin and Steve Stevens! If you have never heard Stevens play flaminco style guitar you are really missing something. The song "Sadhana" on Wood & Steel Volume II (I think) from Windom Hill records blows my mind. (And yes people, I realize it is an acoustic guitar he is playing and not an Ibanez but hey, it is really something!)   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:22 pm:    Lofapco, I like this thread too, there's alot to be gained from it. Even if you chose one player a week to go and check out his stuff, it would keep you busy for a while and you'd be hearing/learning some cool stuff.   Cmangeot Username: Cmangeot Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 1:51 pm:    Elliot Easton from the Cars. Great player, and a Berklee grad.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 11:47 am:    Yeah, well, we won't hold that Berklee thing against him ;   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:42 am:    Did anyone mention Vernon Reid. Isn't he the guitarist from 24-7 Spies? Even if the only thing he ever did on guitar was "Cult of Personality" he would still be an awesome (seldom-thought-of on the lists) axeman IMHO. That song kicks butt and the guitar in there is nuts. That's one of those songs I could hear 10x in a row and not get sick of it. Great guitar stuff in there, the guy can PLAY. And... who was Alice Coopers original guitar player? There was really neat guitar stuff on all the old Alice albums. Steve Hunter I believe and his style reminds me alot of Mick Ronson.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:21 pm:    Yo Zilla, Cooper's guitarists were Glenn Buxton & Michael Bruce. Check out the Killer album and Muscle of Love for some crazy 70's power guitar. Those two guys riffed off each other and never seemed to step on the other.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:41 am:    Thanx Tube. Why was I thinking S. Hunter? I dunno. That's what I thought.   Yuma Username: Yuma Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:30 pm:    Here's my list for today (cause it can and probably will change tomorrow) some have been have been mentioned before, but I believe I had added some that need to be in this thread. Most notably Farner of Grand Funk fame and Garcia of the Dead. Alvin Lee Buddy Guy Tommy Bolin Mick Ronson Bob Weir Jerry Garcia Mark Farner Billy Zoom Paul Weller Steve Goodman Nice thread going here.

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