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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 9:23 pm:   

The Czech rock band Kabat's rythm guitarist used a MIJ Flying V copy, as we have seen a few on ICW.
I mean the ones with the big white truss rod covers and as I remember it well a zero fret?

One of the names we saw, was Arbiter.

Kabat start at 1:08:xx
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=4524170&md5=583a6c8 e090d67dd6d5c6556e889c2fe

Harry and Hasy, did you see it?
And did you manage to identify it?

Ginger
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Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 3:36 am:   

Hi Ginger

I don't think it's an Ibanez copy, but a genuine Gibson.
Main point of recognition: the pointy headstock!
At least Ibanez '67-style Vs had a more rounded headstock. Compare the Gibby V (in this case: a 2002 faded one) to the Ibanez from the 76 Golden oldies catalogue.
Ibanez 67er V's have been in production from 1973 on and always had a rounded headstock.
I wouldn't know for sure if other Japanese V copies can have a pointy head, but it sure is not an Ibanez the guy is playing.
Here's the Ibanez:
my picture

And here's the Gibby:
my picture

Kind greetz,
Harry
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Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 3:44 am:   

Forgot:
If you watch the guitarist of the band on "pause"
and you take a look at the logo on the trussrod cover you see that (allthough it's hardly readable) it is placed kind of slanted, more like the Gibson logo. The Ibanez logo is not slanted but placed "straight".

And by the way: my Ibanez 67-er V has no zero-fret. Ibanez 67-er V's never had.

Harry
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 9:37 am:   

Nah, you're right about the zero-fret. I was probably confusing them with the older ES-335 models, like Freak's Ventura. It's bothering me for some time, who made the older replicas (before Fuji Gen did). Matsumoku is often mentioned. And the year of the zero-fret to no- zero-fret transition is 1967.
If the first production year of the Ibanez 67 Flying V copies was 1973, there won't be any zero-frets on them.

I didn't get a clear picture on the screen.
So do you think it's a real 1967 vintage Gibson Flying V?
Interesting...
I found video recordings of the same guy during the rehearsal with a white Explorer model too (set neck of through body neck, NOT bolt-on).

This guitar was the first thing I saw when we put on the TV. But it was too short for an ID. The rest of the program was really BAD. In such cases I start seeing things I want to see (projection). I guess, I just should accept that there was NOTHING good in the part of program that I saw: ear and eye torture as usual.


Ginger
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Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 11:06 am:   

No, it hasnīt have to necessarily be an original 1967 Gibby V: could be a later re-issue. Gibson made many types and re-issues of the various types of V.
Have a look at:

http://www.flying-v.ch/gallery/gallery.htm

Kind greetz,
Harry

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