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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 8:57 pm:   

So what I'm trying to do is, ultimately, recreate, at least in outward appearance, Frank Zappa's cherry sunburst Les Paul Custom that he used in the early 1980's (and which is pictured on his "Shut Up N Play Yer Guitar" album covers). I've got a MIJ body incoming, I've ordered the black trimmings and gold screws, and can easily get some gold plated bridge/stop pieces. But I notice on the picture of the guitar (see below) that his guitar has what appear to be the same Ibanez pearl tuners that are on my MC400. Where can I git some of those? (And they don't have to be Ibanez if the same style are made by another manufacturer. They just have to be gold plated.)

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Talajuha
Username: Talajuha

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 5:33 am:   

What is the fifth knob?

Juha
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 5:53 am:   

I'll let Frank explain it (from a 1982 "Guitar World" interview). Note that the magazine transcribed "carbon" when Zappa said "Carvin" a couple times:

GW: What kind of modifications did you build into the Les Paul?

Frank: The Les Paul has a pre-amp and it has two different kinds of pick ups, and it has a Dan Armstrong pickup in the neck position and it has a carbon pickup in the bridge position. It has a Dan Armstrong gizmo called The Green Ringer built into it, which I can dial in. It also has a EQ circuit which in one position gives you about an 8db boost at 8-K and the other position gives you an 8db boost at 500 cycles, so you can either go from a bright sound to a more mid-rangey wah-wah kind of sound, all built into the guitar. And then it has a pickup selector switch that has nine positions. It changes the wiring between the pickups in a lot of different ways, so it's got a lot of tonal variation, I can make it sound just like a Telecaster if I want. Unfortunately, in that position it's not humbucking and under the lights it makes a lot of noise but in a studio it's usually okay. And then there's a little toggle switch on it that goes from series to parallel on the pickups and depending on where the pickup selector switch is set that gives you yet another whole series of variations. And so, I have eighteen times three different tone selections on that guitar.

Complete article:

http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/index.php/Frank_Zapp a,_82/03
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   

Bump.

Still looking for those pearl tuners. The tuner heads look just like the ones on my MC400NT, so I'm thinking Zappa put a set on his Les Paul. Where can I get a set of these tuners? Are they available new? I'm watching eBay like a hawk, too.

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-Chuck
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Acetan
Username: Acetan

Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   

Are they in gold or chrome? Can't tell for sure.
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:00 am:   

Gold.
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:23 am:   

http://www.ibanez.com/parts/2004_PARTS/el_guitar/p arts/MB506G.html

If you are in the USA these are it. They are new parts form the ar3000.
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:30 am:   

Chucke99 the set is 75.00 dollars according to the price index on Ibanez.com. These are Gotoh tuners and are very good tuners.
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:33 am:   

By the way I have pics of him somwhere that I took at the Philadelphia Tower Theater in 1981 of Frank playing this guitar with a 80 to 200 zoom lens on my old manual Pentax K 1000. They were some great gigs.
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:37 pm:   

IBZ Freak, I would KILL for scans of those pics. If you ever find them, let me know. I saw Frank twice in 1981, once at the Palladium in NYC and also, I believe, in Hartford, CT (but it could have been NJ).
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:47 pm:   

I don't see how to order the tuners on Ibanez.com.
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Acetan
Username: Acetan

Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:36 pm:   

I have a set of valve tunes with pearloids but they're in chrome. Sorry can't help you.

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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 9:58 am:   

Chuckee, ibanez.com has the store button on the menu at the top. But it seems to be down at this time. That is where you place your orders.
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Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar

Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 1:21 pm:   

Ace,

"Valve"? I think you meant "Velve Tune". As in "velvet" with a speech impediment. :-)

The Bear
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 1:51 pm:   

Chuck, the tuners you want are on ebay pretty often. Type in "pearl tuners" as a search, you'll probably find them within a week. I know I got 2 sets that way... recently. I am looking for star tuners, I'd trade you if you got 'em.
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 1:52 pm:   

P.S. - try what Freak said first.
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 7:10 pm:   

Thanks guys. I'm checking regularly on the bay for pearl tuners now. There's a trashed Ibanez LP up now that has star tuners with it, but they look in need of a plating job. Bob, you have experience with that, don't you? ;-)

Just kidding. Don't mean to dredge up bad memories.
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Acetan
Username: Acetan

Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:40 pm:   

Can't get away with anything around here.

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