| Author |
Message |
    
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 5:23 pm: | |
Anyone interested in a replacement pickguard for their 2630?
My luthier has made a routing template for the 2630 pick guard. He ordered a tortoise shell like non-out-gassing pick guard material and will bind it as close to stock as possible. He has gold colored mounting hardware that is really close, but if anyone knows where to get the original equipment, please let me know.
If anyone is interested in obtaining a replacement pick guard for their 2630, please express your interest here. Price will be dependent upon the quantity ordered at one time, so it would be best to all order at once.
Thanks again to Brock for providing the tracing. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:17 pm: | |
I'd buy one, even though I don't have a 2630. I would save it for the day I do get one.
-Chuck |
Sbg3000
Username: Sbg3000
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:13 pm: | |
Yup! My cellulose one bit the dust ages ago like most.
As long as I don't have to put any new holes in for the hardware, I'd be in. |
Orval
Username: Orval
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:58 pm: | |
count me in, as long as the price is reasonable |
Blues
Username: Blues
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 10:23 pm: | |
I agree with Orval.
Count me in if price is reasonable.
BLUES |
Flutterbye
Username: Flutterbye
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:26 am: | |
One more for me please. |
Jerryneves
Username: Jerryneves
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 2:15 am: | |
Correct me if I am wrong...I can use one for my 79 AS200 right?? If that is true...I WANT ONE PLEASE!!! |
Callistabb
Username: Callistabb
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:30 am: | |
I have a 2630 being delivered from the US in mid December. It has a pick guard but I don't know, in what condition. I would want one even if it is original and mint.
If mailing to Europe is OK with you, please count me in. I will of course pay additional shipping costs.
/Bjorn |
Blues
Username: Blues
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:39 pm: | |
Jerry,
If I remember correctly, the 1979 - 1980's (Pre-Artstar) AS200 pickguard is slightly longer than the 2630 pickguard from the neck-pickup to the cut-a-way area. Thus the mounting hole(next to the neck pickup) for the AS200 is located about 3/8 inches off from that of the 2630.
See if he can make you an AS200 pickguard or if you could get the pickguard without the hole near the neck-pickup.
BLUES |
Jerryneves
Username: Jerryneves
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 2:54 pm: | |
Hey Pitchpocket, If he can make one and not drill the holes so I can use it on my AS200 that would be great! |
Guitartim
Username: Guitartim
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 1:22 pm: | |
Pitch~ I'd sure like one too if reasonably priced. |
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 2:36 pm: | |
Jerryneves,
The AS200 is quite a bit different than the 2630. I have an original pickguard on my AS180. It looks like the exact same as the AS200. If you would like, I can give Kerry the tracing and details and he can make a template for that one too. Anyone else need an AS200 or AS180 replacement pick guard?
Steve |
Alhall
Username: Alhall
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 3:29 pm: | |
count me in as well, as long as the price is reasonable. I live in France, can he mails to europe ?
thanx
Alain |
Jerryneves
Username: Jerryneves
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 3:50 pm: | |
Steve,
That would be great if he could make that guard. There has to be several people looking for AS200 guards here. My AS400 has the tortoise guard with layerred binding and it matches up perfectly. I think the AS200 had that guard until at least 81. I just figured it was the same shape as the 2630 since the tortoise shell and binding looked the same in those years.
Jerry |
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 4:11 pm: | |
A problem we are having is matching the tortoise shell without using an out-gassing material. Even if we wanted to use the out-gassing stock, it is now considered hazardous material and most suppliers have stopped carrying it because they have to ship it as "hazardous" at a pretty high cost. Does anyone know of an acceptable tortoise shell guard stock?
Maybe I should start another thread for AS200/AS180 replacment pick guards to see how many people want one. My AS180 serial number is F617252, so it is from '86 or '96?? Although it looks like the AS200 guard, does it necessarily match the older versions? |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 7:36 pm: | |
Pitch, I know Warmoth Guitars has a good tortoise shell blank stock available (I have some of it) at www.warmoth.com.
If your guy can produce a prototype showing the binding material, that would be helpful. I think that's going to be the toughest part of the reproduction.
-Chuck |
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:43 am: | |
Chuck,
Do we want to use the celluloid? It is the same out-gassing material we all have trouble with. Vinyl would be more stable, but we can't find a good tortoise shell look alike.
Since you have the original binding on the inside between the pups, maybe you can get a good detail shot of it so we can reproduce it as accurately as possible.
Steve |
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:05 am: | |
Speak of the devil. Kerry just emailed saying he found a non-celluloid tortoise shell material that looks very good. If we can confirm the binding configuration, we can whip up a prototype to show how it looks. Here is my 2635 guard and bracket. Is it the same as your 2630?
 |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 2:45 pm: | |
It looks the same. I'll get a detail shot tonight. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 1:13 am: | |
I forgot to look at my pickguard binding carefully before dropping it off at my repair place for electronics work, but I think it's identical to yours. Here's a shot of a pickguard from an AS200 that also looks the same:
 |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 1:25 am: | |
I was wrong about that pickguard being from an AS200. It's from a 2630, (July 1978). It's different from mine and the one pictured in the 1978 catalog, though. It doesn't have the "cutouts" for the pickups. Interesting.
This is part of a dissasembled 2630 listed as an AS200 project on eBay:
Ebay Item #140188335961 |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 11:13 pm: | |
I saw that auction Chuck. Looks like the 2630 has had some kind of "repair" though the seller isn't exactly saying what kind of repair. Guard looks to be in pretty good nick though.
six |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 2:17 am: | |
Here's a tracing of my 2630's pickguard (from the back) and also a photo of it from the back next to a ruler. Note that the photo, though it looks fine, is probably a little distorted because the camera was so close. The tracing is more correct in terms of perspective, though a little blurrier because the camera was farther away.
The binding measures a total of 3.5mm in thickness. Each thin white or black band is 0.5mm and the thick white band is 1.5mm. The total thickness of the pickguard is 3.0mm. I can't find any spare parts binding that is 0.5mm thick and 3.0mm wide. Stewart MacDonald has some that is 0.51mm x 6.0mm so that would have to be trimmed down.
I'm going to attempt to cut out a guard at the size that includes the width of the binding, then bevel the edge down to reveal the white and black layers. I'll post a picture when I'm done. (I have some tortoise shell, five-ply celluloid stock.)
-Chuck |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 2:21 am: | |
And here's a closeup of the remaining binding on my guard:
 |
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 11:04 am: | |
Thanks Chuck, the binding looks like the same configuration as the 2635.
We are waiting for the non-gassing tortoise shell material to arrive to build a prototype. When it's done, I'll post a photo and see if anyone's still interested. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 8:02 pm: | |
If you get the binding right, I'm in! I'm rooting for ya. |
Ziocesco
Username: Ziocesco
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 5:34 am: | |
Pitchpocket, does it fit for an 83' AM205? |
Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:31 am: | |
The way I understand it, the binding is the outside white band and the purfling is added. That means he can configure the binding and purfling any way he wants to. I've made sure he is aware that Ibanez collectors here are going to be picky so he is taking care to match the photos. We do not want to make the guard out of celluloid to avoid the same problems the old ones have, so the hunt for a non celluloid tortoise shell material is on. He thinks he has it nailed and is waiting for the sample sheet to arrive.
The AM205 is totally different. It is a black and white laminated material with no binding. It's pretty easy to make if you need one. |